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electronjohn
06-30-2018, 04:30 PM
Well. maybe. We have a 52" Sharp "Aquos" that has been a fine performer since new about 6 years ago. Couple months ago, two thin lines developed near the top of the screen. Recently, a third line has become apparent about 1/3 of the way down. Since I have little knowledge of the black magic in how these things operate...is it fixable or just potential E-waste. Any comments or suggestions will be appreciated.

TUD1
06-30-2018, 04:40 PM
I go TV shopping by the local thrift store's dumpster. :D

andy
06-30-2018, 05:01 PM
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zeno
06-30-2018, 05:19 PM
TV shopping sucks now. All the sets are put in display mode
that gives a fake picture only meant to grab your eye.
The content shown dont help either. Then try to get them
to give you a remote to see what it really looks like.
Forget that idea.........

All I can say is I got a 32" Sony about 6 yrs ago & it has been
flawless. It even can give a mild natural pix like a CRT set.
Not overstated, inaccurate colors & room lighting brightness........

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

mbates14
06-30-2018, 06:10 PM
most TVs now are all junk BTW. most offbrands are made either by LG or huawei. There are some other chinese nonames that dont even hide the name by a "fake american" name anymore. just chinese.

Otherwise, its either LG or Samsung. thats about it. Vizio is made by LG, and now so is sharp.

Ed in Tx
06-30-2018, 08:06 PM
All I can say is I got a 32" Sony about 6 yrs ago & it has been
flawless. It even can give a mild natural pix like a CRT set.
Not overstated, inaccurate colors & room lighting brightness........

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

I have a 40" Sony I bought in May 2008. Almost 57,000 hours and 4,000 power On cycles when the attached picture was taken a few weeks ago. Still going strong, never an issue with it, never taken the back off or even moved it other than dust behind it. Have always loved the picture quality. Like Zeno said about his, mine has a CRT-like naturalness to it. If course it has to be set up and adjusted properly to do that. It has plenty of adjustments to make it just perfect. I will likely buy another Sony when this one finally bites the dust someday.

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=197335&stc=1&d=1530406790

andy
06-30-2018, 08:35 PM
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WISCOJIM
07-01-2018, 12:46 AM
I have a 40" Sony I bought in May 2008. Almost 57,000 hoursYou've run that TV 15.6 hours per day? What do you do in your spare time?

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TUD1
07-01-2018, 01:57 AM
I spend most of my time checking Craigslist, watching TV, and posting on Videokarma. The rest I waste.

mgross0
07-01-2018, 02:11 AM
At the time you purchased, Sharp was the best thing on the market in an LED/LCD tv. Now they are made by Hisense. Try cleaning the connector cable, and making sure that the heat sink is still good on the upper board. It is not a serious problem yet, or the little vee logo at the bottom center of the bezel would be flashing a trouble code.

If you decide to buy new, I would go with an LG. Do not buy a Samsuck.

SpaceAge
07-01-2018, 02:25 AM
most TVs now are all junk BTW. most offbrands are made either by LG or huawei. There are some other chinese nonames that dont even hide the name by a "fake american" name anymore. just chinese.

Otherwise, its either LG or Samsung. thats about it. Vizio is made by LG, and now so is sharp.

Actually Sharp is made by Hisense, which is a Chinese state-owned company. I remember reading somewhere, maybe it was here on videokarma, that Sharp decided to exit the North American market and license their name, so Hisense entered into an agreement to use the Sharp brand on their products. No big deal, right? Lo and behold these Hisense-built Sharp TVs ended up having all kinds of problems due to shoddy quality, and as a result tainted Sharp’s reputation. Now Sharp is unhappy and realizes their mistake, but it’s too late. What a mess. :sigh:

dishdude
07-01-2018, 03:15 AM
I'm a Vizio fan, LG second.

Chip Chester
07-01-2018, 08:51 AM
We have a couple Vizio sets, with no problems so far. These things are best bought with the various 'insurance' policies that are available, because statistically, they will fail before you think they should. It's literally cheap insurance.

Our first flat panel was a 55" Hitachi plasma, at almost $100/inch, that weighs every bit of 140 lbs. It's still cookin' (as in producing prodigious heat) for the group we donated it to (for signage use). Our latest Vizio HDR 4K set I can comfortably carry under one arm. I'd say it's still working after several years, but that may jinx it!

Ed in Tx
07-01-2018, 10:41 AM
You've run that TV 15.6 hours per day? What do you do in your spare time?

.Sleep!

It's typically on from a little before 7 until nearly Midnight. I leave it on even if I go out for a while. Entertains the pets.

I think part of the reason for longevity is I've always run the backlighting at 3 (out of 10 max). Plenty bright with the proper picture and brightness settings and it runs a whole lot cooler, and draws about 90 Watts. At full "10" backlighting, the power consumption goes up over 200 Watts and it gets that eye-piercing brightness most anti-LCD people complain about. Of course now, they are all lit up with LEDs, so probably none of that applies.

mgross0
07-02-2018, 12:59 AM
Vizio buys their parts from LG. The screens/panels are usually LG seconds.

vts1134
07-02-2018, 07:50 AM
TV shopping sucks now. All the sets are put in display mode
that gives a fake picture only meant to grab your eye.
The content shown dont help either. Then try to get them
to give you a remote to see what it really looks like.
Forget that idea.........

All I can say is I got a 32" Sony about 6 yrs ago & it has been
flawless. It even can give a mild natural pix like a CRT set.
Not overstated, inaccurate colors & room lighting brightness........

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

Sounds like you're shopping at the wrong kind of store.

mr_rye89
07-04-2018, 11:53 PM
I have no idea what kind of TV I would buy now. I haven't bought a new one in 10 years. I got a Vizio 32" Plasma back in '08, used that until I got a 52" Mitsu DLP RPTV (lol lightbulbs) and have been using various DLP, CRT, and LCoS/D-ILA projectors, My latest being a JVC DLA-RS30U. I never did like LCD. Meh colors and backlight bleed. Hell Even my computer monitor is a CRT (LaCie 22" Diamondtron). Now if I could locate another one of those.......

Dude111
07-05-2018, 12:22 AM
Well. maybe. We have a 52" Sharp "Aquos" that has been a fine performer since new about 6 years ago. Couple months ago, two thin lines developed near the top of the screen. Recently, a third line has become apparent about 1/3 of the way down. Since I have little knowledge of the black magic in how these things operate...is it fixable or just potential E-waste. Any comments or suggestions will be appreciated.Im so sorry buddy :(

I hope you can find something good soon :)


Have ya tried unplugging it and waiting awhile and re-pluggiong?

electronjohn
07-05-2018, 08:45 AM
Don't think the plug/unplug routine would help, but I might give it a try. Regardless, shopping may be over. One of our sons closed one of his restaurants and has several 55 inchers that are now surplus. Don't know brands, but he said "$100 and one's yours." Likely the route we'll go.

Dude111
07-06-2018, 11:18 AM
Well i hope it all goes Ok for ya :)

55?? -- Woah!!

mr_rye89
08-19-2018, 03:25 PM
I had some kind of weird power anomaly this week and it killed my nice JVC projector.:sigh: I went on ebay to look for another and they cost the same as when I bought mine (about $800)

These days that amount of cash gets you a really big direct view (nearly the size of my projection screen) LED/LCD with 4K/HDR and LCDs aren't as bad as I remembered.

Time to go shopping!

zeno
08-19-2018, 05:31 PM
Sounds like you're shopping at the wrong kind of store.

There is no right place around here anymore, maybe nowheres.
All big box. I even worked a SHORT time at one. Most consumer electronics
are sold as blister packed commodities hanging on a peg board. Nobody
gives a crap anymore. If you come in to do it right & honest you soon
find yourself reading the help wanted page.

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

zeno
08-19-2018, 05:40 PM
IMHO Ed is on to it. Dont drive these things to the max & they look better & almost have to give much longer life. Remember heat is the killer most the time. Reducing current = less heat. The constant bad 'lytics in the PS will last longer along with the backlights & drivers.

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

Sleep!

It's typically on from a little before 7 until nearly Midnight. I leave it on even if I go out for a while. Entertains the pets.

I think part of the reason for longevity is I've always run the backlighting at 3 (out of 10 max). Plenty bright with the proper picture and brightness settings and it runs a whole lot cooler, and draws about 90 Watts. At full "10" backlighting, the power consumption goes up over 200 Watts and it gets that eye-piercing brightness most anti-LCD people complain about. Of course now, they are all lit up with LEDs, so probably none of that applies.