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timmy
01-16-2018, 08:03 AM
I have a d5-100w black and white crt I want to use in an oscilloscope clock it will work only problem is the heater voltage is .055 volts, .060 Ma so the question is the source on the clock board is 6.3 volts so would a resistor be able to take the voltage down to a half volt or maybe use a small transformer and use the 6.3 source on the primary of the small transformer. Any thoughts.... :scratch2:

Electronic M
01-16-2018, 09:12 AM
If it is a DC heater source or you don't mind rectifying and filtering it an LM317 voltage regulator circuit should provide the most constant heater voltage.

timmy
01-16-2018, 09:30 AM
If it is a DC heater source or you don't mind rectifying and filtering it an LM317 voltage regulator circuit should provide the most constant heater voltage.

It is an ac source right out of a transformer.

N2IXK
01-16-2018, 10:02 AM
At 0.55V, could you use the drop across a forward biased silicon diode?

timmy
01-16-2018, 10:29 AM
The lm317 regulator is 1.2v to 37v , not low enough, 0.55 , got to be carefull with this low voltage it wouldn't take much to burn the filiment. :sigh:

timmy
02-17-2018, 09:12 PM
At 0.55V, could you use the drop across a forward biased silicon diode?

I'm not sure how to do the drop across biased silicon diode way even to see if it would work. Being I have 2 of these crts I would like to try in an oscilloscope clock. Be nice to have a black and white clock face rather then green. I had 3 but already burned the filiment out on one.

Polaraligned
02-18-2018, 08:56 AM
I am assuming that the heater is looking for 0.55v DC because the CRT was designed for battery operated portable TV's? An LT3080 regulator would fit the bill as it is adjustable down to 0v. You would need to rectify and filter the 6.3vac you have before feeding it to the regulator circuit.

timmy
02-18-2018, 11:48 AM
So I'm assuming it's a positive reg , but I'm not sure how I would set it to put out .55 volts. I know I would have to rectify the 6.3 v and filter it befor injecting to the reg. The set pin ,is that for a pot or a resistor to ground ? Not sure here but it looks promising.

mrjukebox160
02-18-2018, 04:35 PM
http://cds.linear.com/docs/en/datasheet/3080fc.pdf

Polaraligned
02-19-2018, 05:22 PM
The 3080 I believe, only comes in surface mount. Not too sure you are comfortable working with SM parts. You can use the 317, just add 2 series diodes to the output and they will drop the extra voltage at the expense of regulation. Once you get it dialed in, the regulation won't be a problem.

timmy
02-19-2018, 05:37 PM
The 3080 I believe, only comes in surface mount. Not too sure you are comfortable working with SM parts. You can use the 317, just add 2 series diodes to the output and they will drop the extra voltage at the expense of regulation. Once you get it dialed in, the regulation won't be a problem.

So if I use the 317 I have to get it as low as possible which I think that regulator only goes down to 5 volts so at that point should I add several diodes in series until I get the correct voltage ? Because .55 is really nothing for voltage, lol.

mrjukebox160
02-19-2018, 10:10 PM
The 317 goes down to 1.25 volts.

http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm317.pdf

Polaraligned
02-20-2018, 06:42 AM
1.25v - .7v = 0.55v

timmy
02-25-2018, 07:59 AM
This d5-100w crt I have uses .55 volts however the datasheet don't specify ac or dc so I went and checked the tv that it comes from and to my amazement the heater voltage according to my DVOM is ac but here's the kicker, according to the datasheet the cathode is shared with the heater so how is this possible to even get an image with Ac on the heater.:scratch2:

jr_tech
02-25-2018, 12:01 PM
I suspect that .55 volts of AC is quite small compared to the video signal, and just doesn't show up as a variation of the video.

jr

Polaraligned
02-28-2018, 06:31 AM
You can run that filament on DC without issue.

timmy
02-28-2018, 06:34 AM
You can run that filament on DC without issue.
Well if I ever figure out how to put a circuit together to use the crt then it will be DC . I already burned one of these crts already, it took just 2 seconds. :sigh: