View Full Version : September 1962 Zenith roundie ad


old_tv_nut
06-24-2017, 10:26 PM
Zenith roundie ad in September 1962 Golf magazine - the earliest Zenith roundie ad I have seen.

Electronic M
06-24-2017, 10:45 PM
1962 Was when their first consumer color chassis 29JC20 came out. I've got one and seen a few, but I can't say I've seen one with the remote option....Can't be many around.

reeferman
06-25-2017, 12:08 AM
Here's the same set, in living color. This is an amazing chassis as the CRT needs no convergence, purity, or lateral hardware! LOL.
The ones I worked on weren't quite this glitzy, but it was a good solid chassis.
Phil

old_coot88
06-25-2017, 01:08 AM
...This is an amazing chassis as the CRT needs no convergence, purity, or lateral hardware!
:saywhat::Could you elaborate a bit more on that?:headscrat

jr_tech
06-25-2017, 01:20 AM
Looks like it doesn't need a deflection yoke either... amazing Zenith engineering!

jr

Electronic M
06-25-2017, 10:50 AM
:saywhat::Could you elaborate a bit more on that?:headscrat

A mockery of the CRT in the ad image having a nothing on/connected to the CRT neck except for the CRT socket yet displaying a picture....The worlds only electrostatic deflection color roundy. :D

fixmeplease
06-25-2017, 01:12 PM
Nice looking set. How dependable were they? I know the B&W's were bulletproof.

dieseljeep
06-25-2017, 01:15 PM
1962 Was when their first consumer color chassis 29JC20 came out. I've got one and seen a few, but I can't say I've seen one with the remote option....Can't be many around.
One of my regular customers had one. The remote control chassis was still tube. The 5Y3 went bad and I didn't have one with me, so I used a 5U4, until I could get back. It was chancing it, as the power transformer isn't that large.
The set was probably ten years old at the time and the picture was still excellent, with the original RCA CRT.
I still don't know what the difference was between the 21FKP22 and the 21FJ. The FK was the CRT that was in Zeniths of the era! :scratch2:

Electronic M
06-25-2017, 02:26 PM
Nice looking set. How dependable were they? I know the B&W's were bulletproof.

Mine still made shrunken color picture on it's original caps when I got it :thmbsp: Of course I gave it a partial recap soon after. Been using it couple years, and the only failures have been a few original lytic sections that initially tested good, and were left be.

fixmeplease
06-25-2017, 03:07 PM
Thanks! I'll write the model down on my small list for when I decide to fix a color set. Maybe not as attractive of a cabinet as some RCA's but still real nice.

zeno
06-25-2017, 05:09 PM
Nice looking set. How dependable were they? I know the B&W's were bulletproof.

Built like the B&W's. Only things that dry out are the hoz eff coil,
convergence adj coils & the conv yoke. Other than that physically
of tank ruggedness. Reliable & gives a great pix. Different than RCA
& its clones. A matter of taste. Most of these sets got junked in the
early 70's. Mostly a matter of getting the big rectangle pix & built
in UHF, not from being run into the ground.

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

Jon A.
06-25-2017, 07:08 PM
The first ad wouldn't have sold me on one of those. I mean, come on, golf? The only games I've found entertaining were played by Adam Sandler. Well, Brent, Hank and Lacey added a little fun to the game as well.

old_tv_nut
06-25-2017, 07:19 PM
The first ad wouldn't have sold me on one of those. I mean, come on, golf? The only games I've found entertaining were played by Adam Sandler. Well, Brent, Hank and Lacey added a little fun to the game as well.

Aimed at those with a level of disposable income to support a golf habit and other such things.

Sandy G
06-25-2017, 08:21 PM
I have heard the following story on Zenith TVs ever since I've been into old TVs. Anybody know if its true, or just a good story ?!? Supposedly, Cdr McDonald was not gonna get into TV, as he thought it was a passing fad. But, when NOBODY was gaining on sales of TVs, he took another look at things, & decided to jump in. But, he told his engineers he wanted a ZENITH tV. one that was built to Zenith levels of quality, & also used as few of the RCA patents as possible. THIS could be why an early Zenith TV is often VERY hard to kill, & why if given half a chance, they still give excellent service. Truth or BS ?!?

Jon A.
06-25-2017, 11:30 PM
Aimed at those with a level of disposable income to support a golf habit and other such things.
That could be one reason the second ad was created, for those who were more into quality than excess.
I have heard the following story on Zenith TVs ever since I've been into old TVs. Anybody know if its true, or just a good story ?!? Supposedly, Cdr McDonald was not gonna get into TV, as he thought it was a passing fad. But, when NOBODY was gaining on sales of TVs, he took another look at things, & decided to jump in. But, he told his engineers he wanted a ZENITH tV. one that was built to Zenith levels of quality, & also used as few of the RCA patents as possible. THIS could be why an early Zenith TV is often VERY hard to kill, & why if given half a chance, they still give excellent service. Truth or BS ?!?
I don't know about the story but the last part is definitely true. Trouble is, very few appreciate them.

reeferman
06-26-2017, 02:08 AM
[QUOTE=Jon A.;3185938]That could be one reason the second ad was created, for those who were more into quality than excess.

Why the second ad?
Black and white ads are not conducive to the sale of color televisions!

Phil

Electronic M
06-26-2017, 09:34 AM
I have heard the following story on Zenith TVs ever since I've been into old TVs. Anybody know if its true, or just a good story ?!? Supposedly, Cdr McDonald was not gonna get into TV, as he thought it was a passing fad. But, when NOBODY was gaining on sales of TVs, he took another look at things, & decided to jump in. But, he told his engineers he wanted a ZENITH tV. one that was built to Zenith levels of quality, & also used as few of the RCA patents as possible. THIS could be why an early Zenith TV is often VERY hard to kill, & why if given half a chance, they still give excellent service. Truth or BS ?!?

Mostly true. Zenith did not have flyback sweep design down in the B&W porthole era, and some of those chassis were as fly hungry as RCA color sets were. By the time rectangular hit the scene Zenith had got it's act together, and was making that stage as good or better than the rest of the industry....Once they had that sorted they were about as good as they could be (once paper caps got phased out in the early 60's they hit a stable peak).

Jon A.
06-26-2017, 11:33 AM
Why the second ad?
Black and white ads are not conducive to the sale of color televisions!

Phil
I don't think we're on the same page. I was referring to the ad you posted.

DavGoodlin
06-26-2017, 03:01 PM
One of my regular customers had one. The remote control chassis was still tube. The 5Y3 went bad and I didn't have one with me, so I used a 5U4, until I could get back. It was chancing it, as the power transformer isn't that large.
The set was probably ten years old at the time and the picture was still excellent, with the original RCA CRT.
I still don't know what the difference was between the 21FKP22 and the 21FJ. The FK was the CRT that was in Zeniths of the era! :scratch2:
I am fairly certain 21FKP22 was a Sylvania-produced tube that was the 21FJP22 alternative. The FK used clear safety glass unlike the tinted glass used by RCA. Both my Zenith roundies have replacement tubes and I was not aware of when Rauland started making OEM tubes for them, so this makes sense.

broadcaster
09-29-2017, 01:33 PM
Zenith made a limited number of chrome plated 29JC20 chassis for selected dealers to display. I serviced for a dealer who received one, and I got it eventually. I replaced the chassis in my 29JC20 with it.