View Full Version : Set at an upcoming estate sale....what is it?


Kamakiri
01-27-2016, 06:50 AM
Appears to me to be an early 80s Zenith. What's really interesting about this particular set is that it appears to be a 19" table model with a WOOD case. Can't recall seeing one before. Save the pic and zoom in on it, and you'll see what I'm talking about. At a first glance, it's a regular 80s set.

Anything rare and great here? :scratch2:

zeno
01-27-2016, 09:47 AM
Zenith SM1971P Top of line 19" that year.
Spacephone, timer, comb filter, color sentry. Uses the gold
hand unit with phone keys.
I bought one new. Will give a fantastic pix. It is a 9-160 set.
Mine survived into the 2000's then I lost track of it.

73 Zeno:smoke:

zeno
01-27-2016, 09:50 AM
BTW looks like a Zenith / Sony beta split VCR beside it. Fantastic
with the camera, as good as any.

73 Zeno:smoke:

Kamakiri
01-27-2016, 10:24 AM
Sams says that's a 1981. I may just have to go buy that set :)

Jon A.
01-27-2016, 02:40 PM
Sams says that's a 1981. I may just have to go buy that set :)
Good call, it's pretty sweet. Doesn't take over a room either.

truetone36
01-27-2016, 03:00 PM
I'd grab everything that's with the set, too

Electronic M
01-27-2016, 03:35 PM
I was given one by Arcanine a few months ago. I need to get back to trying to fix it...I was in the process of trying to swap the 9-160 board.

jstout66
01-27-2016, 04:41 PM
It's one of the best sets I own. Retail was $549.00 when new, so it was the best 19" set they made in 81. My 9-160 board sassed a few weeks ago (after YEARS of heavy use with no problems)
Ran the set to Walter Beers and he re-capped the board for me.
Zeno is dead on with the remote it uses. I've got the original with mine, but a few keys stick, so I bought a spare a few years ago. The spare uses that stupid J battery tho. Original is a 9V. Also.. this set is one of Zenith's first with OSD (time and channel)
It doesn't have sleep mode, but you CAN set it like an alarm with an auto on / auto off feature. FYI... it weighs a ton for a 19" set.....

Jon A.
01-28-2016, 01:02 PM
I have one of those gold hand units. Got it new in the box and used it with a later model Zenith console for a bit. I recently found out there's a replacement hand unit made by PhilipsECG, the RT 111. There's a NOS unit on eBay right now. Unusual for sure.

Kamakiri
01-30-2016, 02:07 PM
Came home with it for a quite modest sum :)

The antenna package has never even been opened. Only thing it's missing is the cover for the remote battery....

jstout66
01-30-2016, 03:21 PM
hopefully it works. Take a screen shot when you get it hooked up.
If you have a land-line, it's fun to call people on!

Kamakiri
01-30-2016, 03:30 PM
Set works very well, but the remote does nothing though it's getting power to the board. There's some type of weird pot on the board with a dial on it, does it require some type of setup?

The VCR was gone.....

walterbeers
01-30-2016, 04:03 PM
Those are a nice set, I just got done replacing the filter capacitor in jstout66 (jamies) space phone zenith and darned it almost looks as good as a high def. Yes, the 9-160 boards give quite a bit of trouble and it seems as if they are almost impossible to find rebuilt or good ones. Best thing to do is replace the caps, and make sure there are no bad solder joints on the 9-160 board. The dual section filter capacitor 300uf 160 volt has to be replace with 2 separate caps.

dishdude
01-30-2016, 05:02 PM
Wow! Nice score. That set looks like it is brand new.

dishdude
01-30-2016, 05:03 PM
I have one of those gold hand units. Got it new in the box and used it with a later model Zenith console for a bit. I recently found out there's a replacement hand unit made by PhilipsECG, the RT 111. There's a NOS unit on eBay right now. Unusual for sure.

What's this RT 111 replacement remote? Is it an aftermarket replacement?

Kamakiri
01-30-2016, 05:29 PM
Honestly I probably won't keep this set. The only reason I got it is so that a beautiful set like this wouldn't get tossed in a dumpster. My collecting preferences are usually a bit older than this, so it'll end up eventually going to a home that appreciates it :)

andy
01-30-2016, 05:31 PM
Set works very well, but the remote does nothing though it's getting power to the board. There's some type of weird pot on the board with a dial on it, does it require some type of setup?

The VCR was gone.....

It's hard to tell, but it looks like it's set to "manual" on the front panel. This disables the remote receiver.

Jon A.
01-30-2016, 05:43 PM
What's this RT 111 replacement remote? Is it an aftermarket replacement?
Sure is, first time I've seen one. It was part of a lot of four. The auction ended with no bids; you can check it out here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201508032457

Tim, check the remote/manual switch at the TV, it might be dirty.

Edit: or turned off. Didn't see Andy's post before. I was still on the first page and used Quick Reply.

Quick and dirty infrared remote test: aim it at yourself and watch the emitter(s) through a digital camera.

dishdude
01-30-2016, 05:50 PM
Sure is, first time I've seen one. It was part of a lot of four. The auction ended with no bids; you can check it out here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201508032457

Tim, check the remote/manual switch at the TV, it might be dirty.

Edit: or turned off. Didn't see Andy's post before. I was still on the first page and used Quick Reply.

Quick and dirty infrared remote test: aim it at yourself and watch the emitter(s) through a digital camera.

Wow never saw one. Thanks for the link!

jstout66
01-30-2016, 06:38 PM
Tim, my set has a manual/remote button behind the door. You think that switch might be dirty? Also I assume you tried another Zenith remote, just in case your remote is bad? Or.. do you have another Zenith sitting around where you can try your remote on?

Kamakiri
01-30-2016, 11:50 PM
Quick and dirty infrared remote test: aim it at yourself and watch the emitter(s) through a digital camera.

Well, I got nothing doing this, so I bought a really nice looking remote on ebay for $20 shipped. I'll give that one a try :)

andy
01-31-2016, 12:17 PM
If the remote is dead, check it for obvious problems like bad soldering, or cracks in the PCB. Also, there's a ceramic resonator in there (small plastic box with two wires). It provides the clock for the remote, and I have seen more than one fail. Most remotes have the same type, so finding a replacement is easy.

Any Zenith IR remote will work (apart from not having the phone buttons).

TVTim
01-31-2016, 12:50 PM
The real wood cabinet is awesome. If you come to PA to see Dave, I may be interested.

Geoff Bourquin
01-31-2016, 03:43 PM
Is that an infrared remote, or is it one of their last ultrasonic units? Does the "shooting end" have a dark red window, like modern remotes or does it have a little speaker grille? The picture of the TV looks like there is a grille between the LEDs, like they used on sets with ultrasonic recievers.

Jon A.
01-31-2016, 04:20 PM
Is that an infrared remote, or is it one of their last ultrasonic units? Does the "shooting end" have a dark red window, like modern remotes or does it have a little speaker grille? The picture of the TV looks like there is a grille between the LEDs, like they used on sets with ultrasonic recievers.
The remote is infrared, I have an identical unit. The grille is for the Space Phone microphone.

Kamakiri
07-13-2016, 06:49 AM
Spied this one on CL....whatcha think it is?

Electronic M
07-13-2016, 07:15 AM
Sparon/Spartan perhaps.

RCAZenith
07-13-2016, 07:37 AM
Spied this one on CL....whatcha think it is?



Shango066 made a video on a set like this. (Or similar). CRT was fried because it was designed to run at all times the unit was powered on, even just for the radio.


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jr_tech
07-13-2016, 05:46 PM
Spied this one on CL....whatcha think it is?

Looks like an early 50s Westinghouse to me.

edit add: Notice the bezel and knob treatment on these sets:
http://www.tvhistory.tv/1951-Westinghouse-Brochure.jpg

jr

truetone36
07-15-2016, 01:51 PM
Looks like a Westinghouse to me, too.

Kamakiri
07-21-2016, 06:59 AM
Here's another. Almost looks XL-100 ish with the knobs, but the control door is too wide and the rest of the knob layout doesn't seem right. Thoughts?

jbattles
07-21-2016, 08:15 AM
Its a Magnavox it could be a tube set but looks like a solid state. There first solid states were good worth getting if you got room.

Kamakiri
07-21-2016, 08:41 AM
This one's definitely getting saved. Told a local TV buddy about it, and he's borrowing my van to pick it up. If it was an XL-100 I'd grab it, but he thought Magnavox as well, and I have to stay within my wheelhouse :)

Electronic M
07-21-2016, 09:31 AM
The clock radio is a Panasonic. I've got one with a different dial.

zeno
07-21-2016, 09:40 AM
Sony Wega atop an early Maggy SS set I believe. Get the
Maggy & leave the Sony for the gamers. Probably not the
common T991 or T809 style chassis but earlier. Lots of little
modules on a vert chassis & normal power supply. Resolder
the mother board & all the modules at the connectors will
fix the 10-20 intermittents. Dont remember anyone finding
one here in 2 yrs so worth saving ! Bet there is only one for
every 50 XL100's or 100 Zenith flats.

73 Zeno:smoke:

sampson159
07-21-2016, 10:10 AM
looks like a t995 magnavox.decent sets as long as crt is good.they make a fine picture and fairly reliable

Kamakiri
11-30-2016, 06:19 AM
Another set at a sale coming up this weekend.....Admiral? I'm really not sure...

zeno
11-30-2016, 10:29 AM
Another set at a sale coming up this weekend.....Admiral? I'm really not sure...

An Admiral for sure. The color ring logo a dead givaway.
Not my cup of tea. IF I found a SS console even I would
take that home ! I have no more excuse. I just bought my
squaw a new Caravan & could easily put 4 in it.......

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

Kamakiri
12-01-2016, 03:09 PM
Is that SS or tube?

zeno
12-01-2016, 05:24 PM
All tube. May have the dread 23EGP22 jug or was converted.
G13 chassis ???

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

Jon A.
12-01-2016, 05:45 PM
Looks like a 1969-70 model considering the controls. Could be an H12 as well or maybe a K-?? hybrid. I've heard of slightly older Admirals with the 25SP22.

Electronic M
12-01-2016, 06:03 PM
Looks like a 1969-70 model considering the controls. Could be an H12 as well or maybe a K-?? hybrid. I've heard of slightly older Admirals with the 25SP22.

As far back as 1967 they were using 25APs and 25SPs.

Crazy as it sounds I'd like to own a set with a 23EGP...As long as it is not a dud and as long as it does not have an RCA style cataract. They are just so rare and interesting as a turning point for the industry/minor engineering blunder that I'd like to preserve one.

Kamakiri
12-04-2016, 09:09 AM
Turns out it was an Emerson. Looked to be in the wrapper new.

Buddy of mine was there within the first hour of the sale to buy it, and he missed the set by 10 minutes. Price was $20. He still tried to get the set, but to no avail.

It's going to be gutted for a dog bed. :cry:

old_coot88
12-04-2016, 12:32 PM
".......my squaw." :lmao::tongue::eek:

Jon A.
12-04-2016, 02:48 PM
Turns out it was an Emerson. Looked to be in the wrapper new.

Buddy of mine was there within the first hour of the sale to buy it, and he missed the set by 10 minutes. Price was $20. He still tried to get the set, but to no avail.

It's going to be gutted for a dog bed. :cry:
Damn! As Colonel Meow typed on Facebook about Boo the dog, F**kin' hipster.