View Full Version : Grossly overpriced "Edenpure" electric space heater.
dieseljeep 12-21-2015, 12:29 PM Just for S&G's, I picked up an Edenpure 5000 BTU space heater at the thrift, I generally haunt. I just wanted to see, why fools would pay close to $400 for an electric space heater, with the same heat output as a $20.00 unit.
I plugged it in and it produced a little heat. It turns out, that it uses three quartz tubes for the heat source. Two are blown. The only good one looks like it's ready to blow.
There's various replacements, on Eplace. The cheaper Chinese KO's look better than the originals and a lot cheaper.
I'm not going to repair it right away, possibly never! :D
maxhifi 12-21-2015, 03:14 PM I am a bit confused by what this is, so I looked it up... all I can say is anyone who goofed off in school so much that they don't understand the concept behind the first law of thermodynamics (i.e. conservation of energy), deserves to be ripped off by this kind of thing. Frankly I am surprised this company has sold even one of these things!
dishdude 12-21-2015, 03:33 PM Do they still make this style? They worked the best.
http://www.1001-home-efficiency-tips.com/image-files/electric_space_heater_radiant1.jpg
maxhifi 12-21-2015, 03:50 PM Do they still make this style? They worked the best.
http://www.1001-home-efficiency-tips.com/image-files/electric_space_heater_radiant1.jpg
+1 on that
The ones I don't like are the small ones with noisy fans. Or the plastic ones which smell like an organic chemistry lab when they get nice and warm
bgadow 12-21-2015, 08:59 PM If you want heat in a hurry, the pictured one will do the trick. I have one similar that's about 40 years old, American Hardware, made by McGraw-Edison, I think. Works great. I'm a real fan of the radiator style, too. I'm amazed at how long Eden Pure and their ilk have hung on in the market. I think of all those fake fireplaces and "Amish" heaters.
Boobtubeman 12-21-2015, 09:29 PM Arent the radiator style ones real energy pigs?
SR
maxhifi 12-21-2015, 09:53 PM the radiator style heaters are good for heating a whole room to a constant temperature the fan ones are good for pointing some extra heat at yourself in a large room. I like both for their respective applications too. It's a shame electricity isn't cheaper, electric heat is great.
Electronic M 12-21-2015, 10:05 PM Had a 70's one that size...Twas the straw that blew the cabin's fuses one winter trip there...They were hidden in a junction box, and we could not find them....The relatives that did had a fun time since the fuses melted into their sockets when they went.:eek:
Captainclock 12-21-2015, 10:25 PM Do they still make this style? They worked the best.
http://www.1001-home-efficiency-tips.com/image-files/electric_space_heater_radiant1.jpg
I saw one of these types of heaters at the Salvation Army a few weeks back, it was a Toastmaster/McGraw-Edison model from the 1960s I believe, I thought about picking it up but then my housemate would of thrown a fit. :sigh:
jr_tech 12-21-2015, 11:01 PM Do they still make this style? They worked the best.
http://www.1001-home-efficiency-tips.com/image-files/electric_space_heater_radiant1.jpg
Seems that they still have them on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Comfort-Zone-CZ550/dp/B007X5J8YO/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1450759651&sr=8-13&keywords=radiant+heater
not affiliated,
jr
tvtimeisfun 12-21-2015, 11:26 PM Hi I have old electric wall heaters that the former owners of my house had put installed in the fifties when the boiler went south heaters were made by Hunter they still heat up the rooms great..Timothy
dieseljeep 12-22-2015, 09:49 AM Arent the radiator style ones real energy pigs?
SR
1500 watts is still 1500 watts, no matter, which way it's used.
The radiator types are fine for enclosed areas, as they depend strictly on convection currents. I used one, set at 750 watts to keep an area above freezing.
You generally find them at garage sales, cheap as they're not very popular.
dieseljeep 12-22-2015, 10:09 AM If you want heat in a hurry, the pictured one will do the trick. I have one similar that's about 40 years old, American Hardware, made by McGraw-Edison, I think. Works great. I'm a real fan of the radiator style, too. I'm amazed at how long Eden Pure and their ilk have hung on in the market. I think of all those fake fireplaces and "Amish" heaters.
Another, all show, no go fancy wood end table style, I have is one I picked up on trash day, near my home.
The thing is in real nice condition. The only thing, that was wrong was the AC plug and U ground adaptor was all burnt up. The plug and receptacle, must've been in flames. How they let this thing run without smelling the burning wiring is hard to believe. It was the neutral terminal.
All it needed was a replacement plug.
One reason, the code now requires arc-fault breakers in most areas of the home, as an ordinary breaker, even a GFI breaker, won't detect this fault.
ChrisW6ATV 12-22-2015, 03:51 PM 1500 watts is still 1500 watts, no matter, which way it's used.
This is the most important thing to remember with electric heaters.
ALL of them will create the SAME amount of heat for the SAME number of watts consumed through the power cord. Some will do it faster, others will do it quieter (generally, the only reason to ever consider the "radiator-style" ones, which otherwise are more expensive and heavier than ordinary fan-and-filament ones). Others are "prettier", if that matters (Amish fireplace-style, anyone, if you want a $400 appliance to do a $40 job?). And, some are easy to use and easy to set to a known temperature each time you use them. But, NONE are "more efficient" than any others.
bgadow 12-22-2015, 09:16 PM My wife likes to use a little fan-forced heater in the fall/spring when we don't have the pellet stove running. My mother-in-law went out and bought her a brand new one because it would be "more efficient". Of course, the old one is only 8 or 9 years old...and they both consume the same 1500 watts as something from the 50's.
jr_tech 12-22-2015, 11:28 PM My wife likes to use a little fan-forced heater in the fall/spring when we don't have the pellet stove running. My mother-in-law went out and bought her a brand new one because it would be "more efficient". Of course, the old one is only 8 or 9 years old...and they both consume the same 1500 watts as something from the 50's.
Very true *IF* the older heater still consumes 1500 Watts... as has been said here, "1500 Watts is 1500 Watts". The gotcha is that over time, some heaters (such as the "ceramic" models) increase in resistance and no longer draw 1500 Watts. Over 5 winters of use, one that I have has dropped to about 725 Watts, as measured on a kill-a-watt meter... still is ok in my shop area, but no longer "toasty warm". :(
jr
ChrisW6ATV 12-23-2015, 01:32 AM some heaters (such as the "ceramic" models) increase in resistance ...
I remember when those were the latest fad in "better" heaters, several years ago. Thanks for the warning about them.
OvenMaster 12-23-2015, 11:27 PM My favorites are the baseboard convector types. No fan, no noise, nice warm room.
http://www.morelectricheating.com/contentonly.aspx?file=images/items/king%20electric_kp_l.jpg
I connected a 1200W one to a line voltage wall thermostat to heat a bedroom and turned off an oil-fired steam radiator. It's perfect.
tvtimeisfun 12-24-2015, 06:38 AM I think hard wired wall heaters are the best still have worries about curtains and furnature being to close plus side no cords for pets to chew and to trip over...Timothy
dishdude 12-24-2015, 10:56 AM I think hard wired wall heaters are the best still have worries about curtains and furnature being to close plus side no cords for pets to chew and to trip over...Timothy
That's a good point, and one of the big selling points of the ceramic heaters. The outside stayed cool to the touch, and if they tipped over on carpet they wouldn't cause a fire.
dieseljeep 12-24-2015, 12:29 PM Very true *IF* the older heater still consumes 1500 Watts... as has been said here, "1500 Watts is 1500 Watts". The gotcha is that over time, some heaters (such as the "ceramic" models) increase in resistance and no longer draw 1500 Watts. Over 5 winters of use, one that I have has dropped to about 725 Watts, as measured on a kill-a-watt meter... still is ok in my shop area, but no longer "toasty warm". :(
jr
I have several of those type heaters. On one, The thermostat controls the heat output and it even controls the fan speed.
All the different makes, seem to be a little different.
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