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drh4683
11-26-2015, 08:25 AM
Last Saturday I went to an estate sale in Berwyn and spotted a rather unusual set. A last gasp 1974 RCA 23" B&W tube type "New Vista" console. It was in the basement of the home where it remained untouched for quite some time. Fortunately the basement was dry, so the cabinet is clean. All it needs is a little bit of detailing. It's a small set and the house had a walk out basement so it was easy to move by myself. It's surprising how light these are, almost like moving an empty cardboard box. Having the big snow like we had that weekend, I was able to safely get it out of the house and into the truck without snow touching it. The set works, but the CRT had to be woken up. Most of the tubes have been changed over the years, but the CRT is original yet. It has the typical orange neon channel lamps too.

Per the chassis stamp, this one was built on the 49th week of 1973, so it's probably a 1974 model and uses a KCS-183 chassis. I don't know when RCA called it quits for B&W consoles, but this one has to be the very last of the tube type generation.




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Sandy G
11-26-2015, 09:28 AM
RCA must have been trying to burn up obsolete inventory as quickly as they could.. A Tooob B&W console in 1974, talk about an anachronism..

Olorin67
11-26-2015, 09:33 AM
nice find! cant be many of those around

dieseljeep
11-26-2015, 10:47 AM
RCA must have been trying to burn up obsolete inventory as quickly as they could.. A Tooob B&W console in 1974, talk about an anachronism..

That was the last year for the hybrid CTC39X color set.
I think my CTC51 portable is a 1974 model, as well. 1974, seemed to be a transition year, for all the major manufacturers.
It looked like the tech, that worked on it, wasn't that enthused about working on B/W.

BigDavesTV
11-26-2015, 04:37 PM
Wow, nice find! I never saw but a very few of those, RCA or Zenith, even in the mid to late 1970s!

rca2000
11-26-2015, 04:49 PM
It looked like the tech, that worked on it, wasn't that enthused about working on B/W.
What gives you that idea--the way those resistors are monted or what ?

MRX37
11-26-2015, 05:13 PM
A tube TV from 1974... last gasp indeed.

jstout66
11-26-2015, 05:42 PM
Doug, I always love your pictures and your "finds"! Ya... a tbe B&W console is rare for 74, but hell.. Zenith still offered 2 B&W consoles in 80 or 81, so there still a small market for B&W consoles even then.

Eric H
11-26-2015, 06:44 PM
Doug, you are hard core, hunting TV"s in a Blizzard ! :-)

It looks like a giant sized version of the little "Salesmans Sample" 8 inch console.

Username1
11-26-2015, 07:25 PM
Doug, you are hard core, hunting TV"s in a Blizzard ! :-)

It looks like a giant sized version of the little "Salesmans Sample" 8 inch console.

YAH ! ! Well you're in prime time capsule area up there.....
Can't get over that goofy control with the drive shaft on it !
How much do ya think the cost analysis was to determine it
was cheaper to do that, than to run wires and mount it proper
next to the other two up there...... The crappy things they do.....

Again Great pictures, great find ! Love the house ! And with decent
looking tv antennas on top ! Don't find that around here much.....

Thanks again Doug !

.

radiotvnut
11-26-2015, 07:36 PM
Yes, I think 1974 was the last model year that RCA offered any tube TV's. As far as later B&W consoles, it seems like that any model made after the mid '60's is hard to find. As far as companies still making them, I know that Zenith had them until '81. Admiral had them until at least '79 (some were also sold under the Truetone store brand). GE had one at least until the late '70's (22XA chassis). Sylvania had them until at least 1980 and I actually have one of these (along with an identical model from '78). I got the two Sylvania sets from a closed dealer and he told me that they kept the B&W consoles in stock for as long as they could get them because there were still plenty of old people who, for whatever reason, didn't want a color TV (he said the so-called radiation scare was one of the issues and that some people with vision problems could see a B&W TV better). I think I remember reading that '81 was pretty much the last year for them because the company who built most of the large screen B&W CRT's discontinued them. I can tell you that on my end, there are not many survivors and I can probably count on one hand the number of later model B&W solid state consoles that I've seen.

Robb
11-26-2015, 07:46 PM
wow
you have snow already !

radiotvnut
11-26-2015, 09:13 PM
Here in MS, we have the air conditioning on right now.

wa2ise
11-26-2015, 09:26 PM
Looks like a hot chassis. I don't see a power transformer, and I do see insulators around mounting screws that would have exposed heads outside the cabinet.

dieseljeep
11-26-2015, 09:34 PM
What gives you that idea--the way those resistors are monted or what ?

That's exactly it! :thumbsdn:

dieseljeep
11-26-2015, 09:41 PM
Looks like a hot chassis. I don't see a power transformer, and I do see insulators around mounting screws that would have exposed heads outside the cabinet.

Low B+, half wave rectifier, transformerless chassis. The input electrolytic was something like 500mfd @200vdc.

rca2000
11-26-2015, 11:05 PM
Low B+, half wave rectifier, transformerless chassis. The input electrolytic was something like 500mfd @200vdc.

Yes..it IS HOT. BUT...I would NOT pass it up...if it came my way, just because it was hot.

radiotvnut
11-26-2015, 11:08 PM
I don't let a hot chassis deter me. I treat them with the same degree of respect that I do anything else, when it comes to precautions against electric shock.

Findm-Keepm
11-26-2015, 11:34 PM
Cs222w

Jon A.
11-27-2015, 11:29 AM
There we go, just in time to watch A Christmas Carol the way it was intended to be watched.

dieseljeep
11-27-2015, 11:35 AM
Yes..it IS HOT. BUT...I would NOT pass it up...if it came my way, just because it was hot.

I have several sets that have hot chassis design. That set uses the last of the RCA B/W tube designs.
I have a 19/20" RCA portable, that has the same main board, from about the same time.
I see the set shown, uses the same type damper tube as the last of the portable tube color sets.

wa2ise
11-27-2015, 01:42 PM
I don't let a hot chassis deter me. ...

I like hot chassis designs. Minimalist designs. I'm just aware of the possible hazards, and take the appropriate cautions.

bgadow
11-28-2015, 10:46 PM
Maybe the absolute last use of the "New Vista" name? But I would guess a solid state tuner? Just a great transition set; I like stuff like this.

rca2000
11-28-2015, 11:44 PM
Look again at the tube layout chart--appears to use at least a NUVISTOR n the tuner and I THINK another tube.