View Full Version : 32" LCD HDTV spotted outside of a Goodwill Dropbox...


Captainclock
10-26-2015, 05:41 PM
Hello everyone today I was visiting the local grocery store so I could visit my bank's ATM which is just outside the store, which the store also has a Goodwill dropbox outside of it as well and when I drove by I noticed that the outside of the Goodwill dropbox there was a 32" LCD HDTV sitting outside of the dropbox and I was wondering if since Goodwill doesn't take TVs anymore if it would be ok for me to pickup that TV and take it home with me or not. It would definitely save the TV from going to the landfill or wherever Goodwill takes the TVs that are donated to them through their dropboxes that they aren't willing to take anymore.

Captainclock
10-26-2015, 06:31 PM
Well I picked up the TV, it was actually a 40" and it was a Sony Bravia which is one of the higher end if not the highest end HDTVs ever made, and I got it home and it turned out that the screen was busted on it. :tears: :no: :sigh:

So here's the biggest question, how much would one expect to pay for a new screen for a 40" Sony Bravia HDTV?
I have bought, and installed new LCD Screens before (my previous experience was with an old Gateway LCD monitor that had a bad LCD Screen and I remember buying the screen for it on ebay for about $20 plus shipping.)

MRX37
10-26-2015, 06:37 PM
I think goodwill doesn't take CRT TV's anymore... I'm kinda wondering if it was OK for you to take that TV...

Busted screen... honestly to replace the panel it's getting cheaper to just buy a new TV.

Findm-Keepm
10-26-2015, 06:40 PM
Our Goodwill donation bins have video surveillance - the hall of shame videos are hilarious - some folks actually tryhing on clothes before walking off with them, and one lady knocked out cold by an exercise machine she was dragging off.

You may find yourself on the evening news. :sigh:

Captainclock
10-26-2015, 06:50 PM
I think goodwill doesn't take CRT TV's anymore... I'm kinda wondering if it was OK for you to take that TV...

Busted screen... honestly to replace the panel it's getting cheaper to just buy a new TV.

Our goodwills don't take TVs anymore period, so I don't think this was necessarily wrong and if it was I could just take it back in the middle of the night. nobody asked any questions so yeah.

As far as repairing the busted screen goes, I'm not sure how worth it or not it would be because I couldn't even find any results on ebay for new screen assemblies for the particular model of TV I have here which is a Sony Bravia Model KDL-40V2500.

Captainclock
10-26-2015, 06:53 PM
Our Goodwill donation bins have video surveillance - the hall of shame videos are hilarious - some folks actually tryhing on clothes before walking off with them, and one lady knocked out cold by an exercise machine she was dragging off.

You may find yourself on the evening news. :sigh:

Our goodwill bins don't have video cameras, so yeah, and our goodwills don't take any TVs period, not even LCDs, and I think it has to do with the fact that most of the LCD TVs that were donated were usually almost always broken, because people thought that goodwill would just recycle their broken tvs for them (which in most cases they didn't). I doubt I'll find myself on the evening news, considering that Goodwill would probably consider it a good thing that people take the tvs off their hands since they don't take them anymore.

Besides last I checked it was only INSIDE the drop box that's considered stealing from (the signs ususally say "no tresspassing INSIDE these premises, meaning inside the box) considering that putting stuff outside the drop boxes is considered dumping and is illegal and technically because of that anything OUTSIDE the dropbox is free game because it would be proverbial equivalent to picking through someone's trash for a TV or a VCR, like you guys on here do all the time... :scratch2: :yes:

MRX37
10-26-2015, 08:16 PM
Well if you can't find a panel, not even through google, see if the power supply and other boards are worth something and try to sell them.

Otherwise, salvage useful stuff off the boards like capacitors and scrap the rest.

EDIT: you can also put in the panel model# on eBay and google and see if you get results that way.

Captainclock
10-26-2015, 08:29 PM
Well if you can't find a panel, not even through google, see if the power supply and other boards are worth something and try to sell them.

Otherwise, salvage useful stuff off the boards like capacitors and scrap the rest.

EDIT: you can also put in the panel model# on eBay and google and see if you get results that way.

Well I already took the TV back over to the Goodwill dropbox because I had a couple of people in this thread including you, questioning whether or not a TV this new (broken or not) would of still been able to of been sold by Goodwill (even though last I checked Goodwill isn't taking TVs of anykind period and it was supposed to be a nationwide policy for Goodwill).

MRX37
10-26-2015, 09:30 PM
Probably the right thing to do just in case.

If anything consider it good karma. Even if goodwill doesn't take it, someone will, and they might have an actual need for it or the money they get from selling it.

Captainclock
10-26-2015, 09:44 PM
Probably the right thing to do just in case.

If anything consider it good karma. Even if goodwill doesn't take it, someone will, and they might have an actual need for it or the money they get from selling it.

More than likely, but I am still going to go back for the old Trinitron set I saw there, because I know that CRT tvs for sure are something that Goodwill isn't going to take and I think it would definitely would make a good gaming TV for my old school video games like my NES and SNES and N64 video Game consoles if anything.

WISCOJIM
10-26-2015, 10:30 PM
I still don't see any justification why you took something that was not yours in the first place. Why did you feel entitled? What makes you so special?

And why do you think the Sony should be yours and not someone else's? It's still theft no matter how you try to explain it.

Grow up and learn to be responsible.

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Captainclock
10-26-2015, 10:48 PM
I still don't see any justification why you took something that was not yours in the first place. Why did you feel entitled? What makes you so special?

And why do you think the Sony should be yours and not someone else's? It's still theft no matter how you try to explain it.

Grow up and learn to be responsible.

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Not when its an item that they don't even take anymore! DID YOU NOT READ WHAT I SAID?!
I said that Goodwill has a nationwide policy now in effect that they absolutely will NOT take TVs of any kind anymore, not LCDs not CRTs, NOTHING! So its not stealing when its an item they aren't even going to take in the first place! The previous owner gave up their ownership of the TV the moment they dumped their TV off on the outside of that Goodwill Dropbox, and since it was outside of the dropbox and not inside of it, it was technically dumped there, which means that it neither belongs to goodwill and neither to the previous owner, which by the way, if you've ever seen the outside of a goodwill dropbox you'll see a sign posted plain as day that says "Dumping is illegal, anyone caught dumping outside of this box will be fined!" so technically taking anything OUTSIDE of the dropbox is no different than picking through someone's trash. So I guess I could say using your line of reasoning that if someone caught you or someone else on here digging through someone's trash on trash day to save an old TV from being trashed by the garbage man, one could call the police on you or anyone else on here and say that you were stealing from that person and face jailtime because the way you're reasoning it out is that if someone is dumping or trashing something its still theirs and that you have no right to take it because its considered stealing, even though you know the item isn't going to be used anymore and its just going to the landfill. So yeah, I really don't see your line of reasoning and how it works considering that you and other people on here do the same exact thing all the time by picking through people's trash just so you can "rescue" a 1960s vintage TV that is destined for the landfill, you're using a double standard, and that's not very sensible. :no: :thumbsdn:

Using your same line of reasoning, what's make you feel entitled to take people's TVs that they clearly put out to the curb for the garbage man to haul off and then haul it home and restore it and put it to use? See yet again another double standard, it has nothing to do with "feeling entitled or wanting to steal something" it has to do with trying to save a perfectly good TV from getting taken to the landfill, because that's where that TV would of ended up anyhow since Goodwill doesn't accept TVs anymore!

Besides you're comment you just made was pointless, I actually took the TV back anyhow so it doesn't even matter!

MRX37
10-26-2015, 10:59 PM
Perhaps it's time to close this thread. It's not serving a purpose except to fuel an argument that we don't need.

Just a suggestion :)

Electronic M
10-26-2015, 11:02 PM
Here in SE Wi. The TV ban only applies to decent sized CRT TVs.....So the policy is NOT ALL TVs NATIONWIDE. LCDs and small portables (as well as Karaoke machines with CRT monitors) show up for sale at Goodwills regularly.....Hell I've even seen a pair of 19" BPC color sets somehow make it to one store's sales floor this summer (I can only guess how they slipped in).

Captainclock
10-26-2015, 11:11 PM
Perhaps it's time to close this thread. It's not serving a purpose except to fuel an argument that we don't need.

Just a suggestion :)

I agree, I returned that tv to the dropbox area (it was outside of it so it wasn't like I took it from inside the box which is technically the area they don't want you taking stuff out of, outside they could care less because technically when its outside of the box they consider it trash because then it falls under the Dumping rules). But anyways I think we can close this thread down since I don't need it anymore.

Captainclock
10-26-2015, 11:13 PM
Here in SE Wi. The TV ban only applies to decent sized CRT TVs.....So the policy is NOT ALL TVs NATIONWIDE. LCDs and small portables (as well as Karaoke machines with CRT monitors) show up for sale at Goodwills regularly.....Hell I've even seen a pair of 19" BPC color sets somehow make it to one store's sales floor this summer (I can only guess how they slipped in).

Well that's not what I had heard, I had heard that Goodwill wasn't taking TVs of anykind period, and that it was a nationwide rule, at least that's what a goodwill employee told me once.

Electronic M
10-27-2015, 12:01 AM
Well that's not what I had heard, I had heard that Goodwill wasn't taking TVs of anykind period, and that it was a nationwide rule, at least that's what a goodwill employee told me once.

Then they were misinformed.....Or this region's management is not following that rule exactly.

Captainclock
10-27-2015, 12:29 AM
Then they were misinformed.....Or this region's management is not following that rule exactly.

my guess is its the latter because i haven't seen a single television set CRT or LCD in any of the goodwill stores near me in over 6 months, the last time I saw a TV set in a goodwill near me was in early April, and that was just shortly before Goodwill decided to stop taking TVs, I also tried to take an old Magnavox TV into them recently (it was a mid 1980s 13" color set with electronic tuning and no AV inputs) and they refused it so I ended up taking it to the Salvation Army because they still take TVs yet surprisingly enough. Amd when I tried taking that Magnavox TV in to them was when I heard from the goodwill employee who told me that they had a nation-wide company policy that banned the donation of TVs of any type or size because of safety regulations and because people were dumping too many junk sets on them (like LCD TVs with broken screens or CRT TVs that were knobbed or that were broken or that were too heavy for their employees to carry without risking dropping them on their foot and breaking their foot or throwing out their backs, or TV screens getting busted in donation bins and having to pay to have the hazardous waste cleaned up in their boxes, etc.)
So yeah, i'm thinking more than likely its just that the stores in your region (and apparently in others as well) aren't obeying corporate rules.

Geoff Bourquin
10-27-2015, 01:41 AM
LCD is P/N 1-802-184-11. Cost is $910+$1620 core+ a couple hundred bucks for oversize shipping. Oh yeah, its NLA. Subs up a couple times to new numbers, but they are NLA too.
I guess I'm a little late with the info.

Captainclock
10-27-2015, 02:32 AM
LCD is P/N 1-802-184-11. Cost is $910+$1620 core+ a couple hundred bucks for oversize shipping. Oh yeah, its NLA. Subs up a couple times to new numbers, but they are NLA too.
I guess I'm a little late with the info.

Wow! That much for just a replacement LCD Panel?! :yikes: at that price you might as well just buy a new set... :yes:

I wonder how it is that Sony was able to get away with charging over $2,000 for a new LCD Panel for their TVs when a new LCD TV could be bought for half the price of repairing the broken set? I'm guessing that's why you don't see Sony in the LCD HDTV market anymore... :scratch2:

Anyways I had once ordered a replacement LCD Panel for an early 2000s Gateway 17" LCD Computer Monitor and all I had to pay for that LCD panel was $20 plus shipping, and I got it off ebay, which I had thought that a replacement panel for that Sony LCD TV would of been about that much on ebay as well seeing as they're both the same technology.

Although it really doesn't matter now because I took that LCD TV back to the Goodwill dropbox, I'll let the goodwill people handle monkeying around with that TV and figure out what to do with it (which more than likely it will get recycled) since its broken, and since they don't even take TVs anymore.

Geoff Bourquin
10-27-2015, 07:28 PM
Things were that way back in the CRT days too. I can recall paying $500 for a new 26"CRT to replace in warranty, and the TV was only worth $350 new. Doesn't make sense. I asked the field engineer why they didn't just send out a new TV and have the customer mail back the serial number tag. He could only say that the company can't do things that way.

Captainclock
10-27-2015, 08:46 PM
Things were that way back in the CRT days too. I can recall paying $500 for a new 26"CRT to replace in warranty, and the TV was only worth $350 new. Doesn't make sense. I asked the field engineer why they didn't just send out a new TV and have the customer mail back the serial number tag. He could only say that the company can't do things that way.

Interesting... :scratch2:

So it seems that the idea for "planned obsolescence" goes back even to the days of the CRT sets and was taken to the next step when HDTV and LCD TVs were introduced in the mid 2000s and then was finalized when the DTV transition happened in the late 2000s... :sigh:

radiotvnut
10-28-2015, 01:22 AM
Many of the 31" and larger replacement CRT's reached the four figure mark, when you could buy a whole new TV for much less. That was done on purpose to discourage repair of an existing set and to encourage the purchase of a new set.

Captainclock
10-28-2015, 07:58 PM
Many of the 31" and larger replacement CRT's reached the four figure mark, when you could buy a whole new TV for much less. That was done on purpose to discourage repair of an existing set and to encourage the purchase of a new set.

I guess that makes sense considering the way things are currently with TVs...

Jeffhs
10-29-2015, 09:41 PM
When you consider how inexpensive off-brand (e. g. Craig) flat screen TVs are these days (I often see Craig FPs advertised for under $100 in the sales ad flyers in my Sunday newspaper), it really doesn't make sense to repair these sets when they develop even slight problems. I paid only $130 for my going on five year old Insignia 19" FP, so when it dies I won't bother even taking it in to a repair shop for an estimate--I will get a new set, or perhaps blow the dust off one of my CRT TVs and use it with my Roku player and an RF modulator.

TVs are like almost everything else these days--use them until they break down, then throw them out and get new. This has been going on for decades, and will not end as long as our electronics and most everything else are made in China and other offshore countries. It started in the '50s with those little transistor radios, and once the trend started there was no stopping it.

The only company that made radios (and TVs) worth repairing, IMHO, was Zenith, with their hand-wired chassis. I have two Zenith Trans-Oceanic solid-state radios from the '60s that still work after a fashion (one works but the dial cord is broken, on the other the AM and shortwave bands do not work anymore although the FM works beautifully), and I intend to hold on to both of them because, as I always say about older Zenith radios, TVs and stereos, they don't make them like that (handwired on metal chassis) anymore. Even my Zenith model R-70, which is from the early 1980s and was built on a PC board, although the radio is very solidly built and sounds great, is much, much better, IMHO, than most any of the one-chip plastic headphone stereos available at discount stores. Those older Zeniths will outlive these gutless wonders by many years. My T/Os are over 40 years old and are still going strong, and the R-70 is 35 years old and still plays as well as it probably did when it was new, which is more than I can say for any radio made offshore these days.

centralradio
11-01-2015, 10:44 PM
Thats strange that people are dumping LCD TVs at the goodwill drop box.All I see here is CRT TVs and CRT computer monitors.People dont read the signs around the boxes.They just want to upload their unwanted stuff there and save on cash what they would pay at the dump.Technically its illegal dumping.This town will fine people for that.In the past year I saw a couple of good looking Panasonic CRT sets in front of the box and a Widescreen CRT set there too at different times.I said I better leave them because I might get arrested and taking from the poor.

andy
11-02-2015, 01:55 AM
Things were that way back in the CRT days too. I can recall paying $500 for a new 26"CRT to replace in warranty, and the TV was only worth $350 new. Doesn't make sense. I asked the field engineer why they didn't just send out a new TV and have the customer mail back the serial number tag. He could only say that the company can't do things that way.

About 10 years ado, I found a nearly new Panasonic 27" CRT HDTV in the trash. It had a bad CRT, but it was less than a year old, so I asked about it at a local repair shop I was friendly with. They submitted a warranty claim, and Panasonic just sent an entire new TV instead of a CRT. It was even a newer model.

rca2000
11-02-2015, 02:38 AM
ANY CRT that dies after a year or less--HAS to be "infant mortality".

I saw a number of those in the late 80's, -early 1990's, BRAND new tv sets with bad CRT"s. I did not even TRY to rejuv them...a new bad tube= JUNK.

Speculation on very early failure--contamination of the gun before evacuation. this wiull DRASTICALLY shorten life of the cathode.

andy
11-02-2015, 03:20 PM
ANY CRT that dies after a year or less--HAS to be "infant mortality".

I saw a number of those in the late 80's, -early 1990's, BRAND new tv sets with bad CRT"s. I did not even TRY to rejuv them...a new bad tube= JUNK.

Speculation on very early failure--contamination of the gun before evacuation. this wiull DRASTICALLY shorten life of the cathode.

In my case, it was an open heater, but I have seen new weak CRTs even in store displays.

Damnation
01-14-2016, 04:16 PM
I actually use a 32" 2009 Bravia KDL325000 as my everyday PC monitor (via HDMI), always been reliable. More I can say for three busted Samsung panels (two LCD, one plasma).

Outland
05-01-2016, 07:21 PM
The GWs here in MD still have CRT and LCD TVs for sale. They're pretty cheap though.

WISCOJIM
05-01-2016, 09:40 PM
I just stopped at seven different Goodwill stores yesterday in Ohio, Indiana, and southeastern Wisconsin on my way back from the ETF convention looking for old electronics. Every one of those seven stores had TVs for sale. And all my local GW stores still put TVs up for sale.

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