View Full Version : Westinghouse tube console at the thrift shop


Robb
01-09-2015, 09:07 AM
Saw this while at the thrift shop last week. What year is it ?

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timmy
01-09-2015, 09:33 AM
rectangular, could be 67-68

DaveWM
01-09-2015, 10:02 AM
CTC-17 clone, instant on sylvania tube may be a problem. clearly missing some tubes but that is not a big deal. If I was getting it I would test the CRT (if its good then its a great CRT sylvanias make a nice pic) and at lest look at the flyback, to make sure its not toast (hopefully its been replaced with a thordarson, if not then some wax dripping is ok, but not burned looking). the Cabinet reminds me of my Sylvania roundie.

Username1
01-09-2015, 10:37 AM
It says "instant on" on the front, Is that closer to '70...? CTC17 was instant on..?
Or were some of the "clone" chassis modified at will by the company that sold it...?

Were clone sets built by RCA factory, or some sub-contractor and supplied to
people like Sylvania, or licensed to sylvania and they built it and were free to
have some mods designed for the set as they saw fit for their goals.... Like
this instant on feature....? Was Thordarson transformers better than OEM....?

That big transformer in there makes me think it's a parallel filament set...
I don't remember those being instant on jobs...

Anyway it says Westinghouse on it.... I got one of their clockradios.... TANK!
I think for $30. I would turn it into a daily watcher....

What are they asking for it ??

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dieseljeep
01-09-2015, 11:16 AM
It says "instant on" on the front, Is that closer to '70...? CTC17 was instant on..?
Or were some of the "clone" chassis modified at will by the company that sold it...?

Were clone sets built by RCA factory, or some sub-contractor and supplied to
people like Sylvania, or licensed to sylvania and they built it and were free to
have some mods designed for the set as they saw fit for their goals.... Like
this instant on feature....? Was Thordarson transformers better than OEM....?

That big transformer in there makes me think it's a parallel filament set...
I don't remember those being instant on jobs...

Anyway it says Westinghouse on it.... I got one of their clockradios.... TANK!
I think for $30. I would turn it into a daily watcher....

What are they asking for it ??

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The set was built by Westinghouse, probably around 1968. It has a Westinghouse part number on the power transformer. The P/T can be wound with a primary to provide partial voltage to the heaters for instant on.
I don't think Sylvania had any part of building it. It just has a Sylvania CRT.
Thordarson flybacks were definately better than OEM. They had a potted silicone winding and were moisture resistant.

damen
01-09-2015, 11:28 AM
Thats a nice looking set I would have to go get if it if it were cloose.

DaveWM
01-09-2015, 11:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QvAKHd1ZOE

my cab looks to be in better shape and a little fancier on the door panels.

Electronic M
01-09-2015, 11:50 AM
Some clones had instant on as far back as at least 1967 (my Airline console for instance). If the CRT is good or comes up to good at 8 volts filament I'd grab it if under 40$ and in your position. If the CRT is bad 15$ for parts/a project that needs a CRT/trading stock is a good investment.

Username1
01-09-2015, 12:02 PM
Thanks guys, I had bought a few Thordarson flybacks and they did come with that
silicon covering that was much better looking than the original I was replacing, I
thought it would help out in the high humidity corona and possibly arcing with age...
I did not know they all had it..... And I never did run into many instant on sets either....

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rca2000
01-09-2015, 01:00 PM
I have only had the opportunity to get ONE Westinghouse tube color set--and that was in 1980...all I could get was the chassis

If this set was within 100 miles of me or so I WOULD go for it...even IF the tube was not real good. I could find one to fit it without too much problem.

zeno
01-09-2015, 01:03 PM
Good news is its not really a Westinghouse. The last ones I saw
were from abt 68. The real ones looked nothin like this.
Much cheaper made & the HV box looked like a Saturn 5.
They were nothing but problems. Fortunately they were
rare in our area....... IMHO this set is abt 1965.

By 1970 they were out of TV. IIRC they were first with instant on.
I remember a comercial for a 19" B&W that had a black sun screen
& instant on. Must have been 64 or '5. A real pissah looking set BUT
the B&W's were as bad as the colors. Every one had loose
wafer switches in the tuner.

73 Zeno:smoke:

rca2000
01-09-2015, 01:22 PM
It has been close to 35 years.....BUT...the cabinet of this one looks like the one I stripped in 1980 , I THINK..I KNOW it had dual speakers , which had a "cap" over the magnet--not an open magnet.

old_coot88
01-09-2015, 01:37 PM
More likely a clone of the CTC-25, as the '17 was a very short production run. Be curious how the Westy implemented instant-on with the power xfmr.

The only Westy color sets I ever ran into were series-string with the dunce cap HV cage.

Robb
01-09-2015, 01:47 PM
Thats a nice looking set I would have to go get if it if it were cloose.

It is still there.. they want $14.99

tvcollector
01-09-2015, 02:00 PM
Wow, that's cheap.. I'd get it...

Electronic M
01-09-2015, 05:23 PM
At that price in your position I'd find a way to get it home with any motor vehicle handy...I would not even bother to post before grabbing it....

Username1
01-09-2015, 05:33 PM
Robb, you got somethin bigger than those Civic's and CRX's ......?

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Robb
01-09-2015, 05:34 PM
Robb, you got somethin bigger than those Civic's and CRX's ......?

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No...

Username1
01-09-2015, 05:45 PM
Well Robb.... It's ok, I've seen on Huffington Post little cars with pallets of bricks
balanced on top, entire loads of wood, all kinds a stuff.... That TV don't weigh
anywhere near that much..... You can do it ! !

Looking forward to the hi quality picts, and youtube movies of the tv.....

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Robb
01-09-2015, 05:46 PM
I dont collect console tv's, just table tops.

Username1
01-09-2015, 05:48 PM
Ok, yer excused..........

Well, on second thought..... Maybe you need one.... just one....

:)
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mcmlxv
01-09-2015, 06:06 PM
My guess is '68 or '69. I think this two-tone CRT bezel and control panel with the 5 color emblem were used during the final years of Westinghouse production.

I just checked my copy of the 1967 Westinghouse Color TV brochure and this set is not pictured. And I doubt the filigree pattern on the speaker fabric and the Mediterranean style carved strip are pre-'67.

A rare piece of Westinghouse history that deserves to be saved.

I can scan & post the brochure if anyone is interested.

Bill R
01-09-2015, 06:19 PM
You can always stack more tabletop sets on it.

Electronic M
01-09-2015, 06:59 PM
Well, I don't collect 70's SS sets, but I keep a few around to keep them from being destroyed by those who lack an appreciation of them.

dishdude
01-09-2015, 08:55 PM
I'd buy it just for the cool color emblem and funky speaker cloth!

Findm-Keepm
01-10-2015, 07:49 PM
Probably a 1968 or 1969 - JC Penney used Westinghouse chassis about that same time and it looks very much like a 1969 Penncrest I once had with bad cataracts on the CRT and an open CRT filament. The date code for the Power transformer would tell - it's below the part number in your picture and would be part of a seven-digit number, being the last four digits. I tried zooming in, but it fuzzes right up.