View Full Version : 1984 Mercury Cougar Classic Tiffany


Paul Knaack
11-26-2014, 09:26 PM
I've been a car guy all my life but have never seen one of these before.
Pretty cool but not $30k cool to me.

http://greenbay.craigslist.org/atq/4756257920.html
http://images.craigslist.org/00P0P_dTimje668AW_600x450.jpg

ggregg
11-26-2014, 09:30 PM
It's one of those things like an Excaliber. Forget what that one is called. Not a Cougar, just a Cougar body purchased from Ford. There were a few different ones of those back then.

Paul Knaack
11-26-2014, 09:38 PM
Yeah, I remember the Excalibers with the Cadillac running gear and the Shay Model A's with the Pinto running gear even the Bradley GT's on VW bugs. But this one escaped me.

ggregg
11-27-2014, 11:13 AM
Yeah I can't remember either. Had a Bradley GT2. Fun little car except the sunroofs leaked like a sieve. Had to put a windshield in it. It was a 1963 Corvette windshield.

Sandy G
11-27-2014, 12:39 PM
Lessee... $30K for an '84 Cougar...Likely early '80s indifferent build quality... 30 years of who-knows-what kind of owner care/maintenance... "Love it or hate it" look at me styling..Who-knows WHAT specialty parts availability... TINY potential selling market...Do you REALLY wanna have this thing as a daily driver...Methinks I'll PASS...

bgadow
11-27-2014, 10:20 PM
That Cougar/Thunderbird proved to be popular for such conversions; there is a company right now that sells a kit to make them look like a '50 Ford. A few years ago we had to put a front clip on a '96 and I regretted that we missed the chance to do something like that. A company that specialized in stuff like the car pictured was Zimmer. I got a call back in the early 90s from someone with the company and they were looking for a body shop in the area to put these cars together. I figured it was a scam of some sort and never followed up on it; another local shop jumped at the chance and actually built a bunch of 'em.

Jon A.
11-27-2014, 11:01 PM
What a hatchet job. These Cougars aren't nice-looking to begin with, but this conversion is a total loss.

ggregg
11-28-2014, 07:05 AM
True but back then, the Cougar and T-bird, were probably the most "modern" looking car of the time.

CoogarXR
11-28-2014, 08:41 AM
80s Cougars are my favorite car, heh. However, the tiffany conversions are terribly ugly to me. I have owned most of the main variants of the 80s Cougar, but I have had no desire to own one of these. They are always crazy priced too.

They are created from Cougar LS models usually, which only have the base interior. They should have made them from the XR-7 at least, so they'd have the nicer seats.

Sandy G
11-28-2014, 10:37 AM
"Classic Tiffany " ?!? A more APT moniker might be "Pimp Pigeon Deee-Luxe".... I bet a guy could play "Dixie" w/all the different horns it has.. Didn't I see this thing in that movie "Car Wash" ?!? (grin)

Celt
11-28-2014, 10:55 AM
Sorry....but... :puke:

Username1
11-28-2014, 11:33 AM
Nice Car !

I remember the Excalibers, I thought they were made out of '77 LTD's......?
I remember the model A's they were sold in our local Mercury dealer back
in 1979, they had 2 on the showroom floor.... Pretty neat.... Years later
they had a 56 T-Bird reproduction car.... I know somewhere I got the
catalogs for the model A....
Anyway here is the rest of that guy's ad minus the list of new parts....

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Mileage 83,000
Tiffany cars are not kit cars. They were factory constructed on brand new Mercury
Cougar LS cars with all the bells and whistles. They had all new parts and can be
serviced anywhere with local parts stores.

This is a 5.0 liter engine with dual exhaust and is 18 1/2 feet long 145 inch wheel
base. Weight is 3200lbs. These elegant automobiles were built between 1984 and
1988in Miami, Florida with roughly only about 800 built. Most were exported to
Central and South America.

These are the ultimate in looks, prestige and they look more expensive and
outstanding than a ROLLS ROYCE or BENTLY and are far more beautiful than a
Mercedes, BMW or Jaguar at a fraction of the cost to maintain them. There are just a
few of these cars for sale with very few miles on them...This is a thirty year old
CLASSIC and this is a car that you can get in and drive daily and really have some
fun with.


This car is a genuine "HEAD-TURNER".........people will always be wanting to take
your picture........it is a lot of "FUN"!!!


Asking $29,900 Contact

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Paul Knaack
11-28-2014, 12:35 PM
Nice Car !

I remember the Excalibers, I thought they were made out of '77 LTD's......?


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Whoops, I was wrong, I googled it and they used Studebaker engines on the early ones and 327 Chevs. on the later ones. Not sure why I was thinking Cadillac.

ggregg
11-28-2014, 01:15 PM
Didn't Brooks Stevens start Excaliber? That would be the initial Studebaker connection as Brooks did nearly all the Studebaker design work (except the Avanti) at the end, and quite well I may add.

I think the best looking repos were the Stutz Blackhawks, build off a modified 1969 Grand Prix. One of the few really good looking ones.

Paul Knaack
11-28-2014, 01:36 PM
Yup, your memory is better than mine heres part of the story
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Excalibur Series II roadster

1984 Excalibur Phaeton
The Excalibur automobile from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, was a car styled after the 1928 Mercedes-Benz SSK by Brooks Stevens for Studebaker. Stevens subsequently formed a company to manufacture and market the cars, which were conventional under their styling.[1]

A prototype premiered at car shows in 1964, fitted on a Studebaker chassis and using a 290-horsepower Studebaker 289 V-8. Studebaker subsequently ceased its operations, ending the availability of its 289 V-8. General Motors friends Ed Cole and "Bunkie" Knudsen agreed to provide Brooks Stevens with Chevrolet 327s in 300-bhp Corvette tune, making the 2100-pound Excalibur a strong performer. With the standard 3.31:1 rear axle, acceleration from 0-60 mph took less than six seconds. Projected top speed was 160 mph.[2]

Sandy G
11-28-2014, 04:14 PM
Anybody who thinks that thing bears anything more than the SLIGHTEST, FLEETING resemblance to a Twenties Mercedes or even a "Bently", needs THICKER glasses than what I wear..

Paul Knaack
11-28-2014, 04:52 PM
Heres the Excalibur and Mercedes, For comparision, Can't beat the original but I can appreciate how much work and engineering goes into building the so called replicas.

http://queensfleamarket.com/vendors/images/3.jpg


http://grandcanyon.free.fr/images/tacot2/original/1928%20Mercedes-Benz%20SSK%20Roadster%207.1L%20White.jpg

Username1
11-28-2014, 07:33 PM
Sorry Sandy, they are a close enough to look good car.... And you gotta give'em
credit, they made a car they designed themselves, you don't see that too often...
Even that Cougar whatchamacallit ain't that bad.... Someone will love it enough to
give it a home.... I'd rather have that for $30K than a Camry....

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Sandy G
11-28-2014, 08:47 PM
Well, the original Brooks Stevens' Excalbers WERE pretty decent cars, & at least they aped one of the GREATEST early racing cars EVER-the 1927-32 Mercedes SSKL. They had a top speed of 120 MPH in a day when MANY cars were doing good to hit 60. SSKL stood for Super Sports Kurz Leicht-Super Sports Short Light- they were shortened & lightened from the "Stock" standard Mercedes by about 20", & several hundred pounds, & fitted w/superchargers-"Blowers". The factory warned that prolonged usage of the "Blower" could cause the engine to destroy itself into bits small enuf to exit thru the exhaust...It was the last car designed by Ferdinand Porsche for Mercedes before he left to start his own company.

ggregg
11-29-2014, 09:59 PM
but before that, he did some free lance work for Herr Hitler and designed the original Volkswagen Beetle.

Sandy G
11-29-2014, 10:39 PM
Naw, that came a little later..Mid Thirties.. But he was thinking of rear-engine cars for a LONG time.. There was a Mercedes, the 130, that he likely did some work on, it was rear-engine... And BEASTLY ugly. Mercedes was pretty much a full-line car company back then, they made lots of "Cheaper" cars, on up to the HUGE Nazi staff cars.