Picked up this obscure vintage JIL (Jutan International Limited) Concerto model JCTV 1580 13 inch Color TV off of KIJIJI today for free. Works and looks like new.
Doesnt seem like it was used much. It is a very clean set.
Made in Taiwan.
I cant find any info on it. Not sure the exact year but probably 1982-1987ish.
Seems to resemble an RCA set of that vintage.

Some pics:

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Another fine example of a well kept set.
I don't think you'd be allowed to bring in anything that wasn't perfectly clean, in that home.

The ad said is was from a clean smoke free home.
The set was a bit dusty though, so I cleaned it with a brush.

JIL Logo looks like the Atari Logo. :lol:



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Atari_Official_2012_Logo.svg/160px-Atari_Official_2012_Logo.svg.png

Time to get yourself a 2600 and a copy of Asteroids to accompany it...

I wonder if Atari collectors learned of this would those sets start to command $$$ on ebay as THE period companion set to have?

Time to get yourself a 2600 and a copy of Asteroids to accompany it...

I wonder if Atari collectors learned of this would those sets start to command $$$ on ebay as THE period companion set to have?

I used to have a 2600 and asteroids + 75 games.. Sold it in 2001.
Id rather buy a Brand new Nintendo NES on ebay.

I dont know how many of these smaller vintage sets are left around but within the past year or so,
Ive collected roughly 14 of them for free or under $10 ! All are working and are in great shape ! :)

Set looks like it was built by AOC ( Admiral Overseas Co. ).
Some of there sets were quite good, others really bad.
When Rockwell shut down Admiral they showed up. Why
Rockwell didnt go factory direct with them with the Admiral
brand is beyond me, there was still a large Admiral following.
They could have saved a ton on the US division & sold a lot
of sets. As it was AOC was one of the first to go under $200
for a 19" set.
The first ones were definately US designed Admiral chassii,
unlike the AOC built 14" & 16" hybrids sold under Admiral.
They looked very different.
An interesting catch & part of the TV industry evolution.

73 Zeno:smoke:

Set looks like it was built by AOC ( Admiral Overseas Co. ).


How can you tell ?

How can you tell ?

I thought that when I saw the antenna connection label. It looked like a Admiral part number. Also the Taiwan word, moulded in the rear corner of the back.
Then I read Zeno's post. :yes:

We want to see a screenshot of the TV in action. What's the EIA number on the picture tube?

How can you tell ?
Ive seen 10 +++ sets a day, 6 days a week, 300 days a year
for 30 yrs til things slowed down. You start to dream about them !
Figure I worked on 70,000 + sets at an average of 8 per day.
Not all completed of course, estimates etc.......
Biggest clue is the use of 1/4" holding it together. Asian sets
almost always use phillips especially small sets. Other clues are the
antenna block & general look of it. TV's evolve so you can
usually tell even if you havent seen one. Also the antenna
instruction tag has an Admiral style part number !!

You may be able to look up the CSA number to ID sets also.
You can do it with FCC ID numbers at fcc.gov.

One other thing I am good at is wrapping cords. Almost everything
that came in got wrapped, then again on completion. I can
wrap them like a machine in seconds if the cords in good shape.
Hell of a useless thing to be good at:sigh:

73 Zeno:smoke:

CHECK THIS OUT:

http://www.gregselectronics.com/brandwars.html

JIL - Low Average

Jutan International Limited uses the names Candle, Citizen, Concerto, and Electrohome. VCRs and DVD players were usually built by Funai, but now by Emerson/Orion. The units branded with the Electrohome name are slightly better than the others. Their TV's are reasonable if you want a low-end set and don't care too much about the long term.

The ad said is was from a clean smoke free home.
The set was a bit dusty though, so I cleaned it with a brush.
My 1983 RCA portable was one of the filthiest sets I have ever seen locally. Cleaned up easily though, so probably not cigarette smoke residue. The home it came from was nice, but the set was in the garage, was probably there for most of its life to get that dirty.

Anyway, that's a very nice little set. Many moons ago I would see Citizen products regularly bearing that JIL logo, but never knew its significance until I saw this topic.

I remember both the JIl brand and Candle as well. If my memory serves me right, an old store chain by the name of Consumers Disrtributing sold their products in Canada. Had an old record player and 8track all in one from back in the day.

I remember both the JIl brand and Candle as well. If my memory serves me right, an old store chain by the name of Consumers Disrtributing sold their products in Canada. Had an old record player and 8track all in one from back in the day.

Ya, I'll check my catalogue. :D

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RE: Zeno's #11 entry:
Most people really notice items like this, when you take a real interest in their work.
I repaired radios and TV's, at least that long, only part time. I also tried it full time for two years. Too much work for the pay. Too many hours!
I still collect old sets and small screen portable color and B/W sets.
The first that I do is remove the cover, if I don't own a set just like it.
AFAIC, it's no fun collecting, if you don't know what's inside. :sigh:

It's funny how people seem to collect old TVs who have little to no knowledge of their workings, or of broadcast terminology/systems. Sort of a classic-car collector who doesn't know how to calibrate a carburetor or do an oil change and filter change. To each his own though--but it costs considerably more to not know, in both hobbies mentioned.

As for the 'Concerto' from the O.P., I will assume it is nonworking 'til I see a screenshot he-he-he :D:D

As for the 'Concerto' from the O.P., I will assume it is nonworking 'til I see a screenshot he-he-he :D:D

I will make a video of it when I get a moment.. just to prove you wrong.
All my vintage gear works... or else I wouldnt bother with it.

RE: Zeno's #11 entry:
Most people really notice items like this, when you take a real interest in their work.
I repaired radios and TV's, at least that long, only part time. I also tried it full time for two years. Too much work for the pay. Too many hours!
I still collect old sets and small screen portable color and B/W sets.
The first that I do is remove the cover, if I don't own a set just like it.
AFAIC, it's no fun collecting, if you don't know what's inside. :sigh:
It was probably the most complex job for the money you could do.
Always learning something new & things changed fast from the late
70's on. Never got rich but did OK mostly due to yankee frugality.
I understand the pulling the back thing. When something new or
unusual came in I couldnt wait to see the guts for the first time.
I also enjoy spotting sets on TV but newer ones are hard. Just
plain black boxes, the styling went to the dogs just like the innards.
Now that its over I realize how much fun I had & come here to
relive some of the memories.

73 Zeno:smoke:

As for the 'Concerto' from the O.P., I will assume it is nonworking 'til I see a screenshot he-he-he :D:D

Here I uploaded a video just to piss you off. hahaha :nono:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzn5dtxYyrU&feature=share&list=UU9uww3n08iilZlA6BPw9HFQ

God, that's a blast from the past. The three words that come to mind that best describe Consumers Distributing were Out Of Stock!!!

Here I uploaded a video just to piss you off. hahaha :nono:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzn5dtxYyrU&feature=share&list=UU9uww3n08iilZlA6BPw9HFQ
Sounds like the reasoning I would use for doing such a thing.

I will make a video of it when I get a moment.. just to prove you wrong.
All my vintage gear works... or else I wouldnt bother with it.
I like the comment a girl made. She should have kept it, instead of buying an RCA, that was turning on in the middle of the night. It must've been a CTC177, or such ilk. :sigh:

I like the comment a girl made. She should have kept it, instead of buying an RCA, that was turning on in the middle of the night. It must've been a CTC177, or such ilk. :sigh:

Well, she was giving it away. People always feel bad about sentimental things.
It was her parents.

It's funny how people seem to collect old TVs who have little to no knowledge of their workings, or of broadcast terminology/systems. Sort of a classic-car collector who doesn't know how to calibrate a carburetor or do an oil change and filter change. To each his own though--but it costs considerably more to not know, in both hobbies mentioned.
I don't know much about that stuff either, but I learn to do by doing, and right now I don't have the diagnostic tools I need. The tools are common (not to mention expensive); the sets, not so much. My sets will just have to sit until I can actually work on them.

I had a Candle tv years ago. 19" black glossy plastic cabinet, color, early-mid 1980's, mechanical tuners. Never had a problem with it - my Father watched it for years and gave it to me around 1997. I passed it on to a college buddy who didn't own a TV about a year later. Never have seen another one like it though.

I had a Candle tv years ago. 19" black glossy plastic cabinet, color, early-mid 1980's, mechanical tuners. Never had a problem with it - my Father watched it for years and gave it to me around 1997. I passed it on to a college buddy who didn't own a TV about a year later. Never have seen another one like it though.

I never saw a Candle color set.
I know they were one of the first Japanese producers of radios and small B/W TV's. They also made private label products, as well.
Someone else must be using their name, as I thought they were out of business. :scratch2:

That's a nice looking set dude, and your digs too. Seriously, that's one well-kept place.

That's a nice looking set dude, and your digs too. Seriously, that's one well-kept place.

Thanks man :)

God, that's a blast from the past. The three words that come to mind that best describe Consumers Distributing were Out Of Stock!!!

How true!

Plus they always had horrible customer service.

Plus they always had horrible customer service.

Worse than Walmart or Best Buy ?