View Full Version : Got a Arkay Tv kit model 14T23,built 1964


47'Plymouth
05-31-2013, 06:52 PM
Just bought a Arkay Tv kit model14T23 that has never been assembled
It's complete,except the CRT 23BP4..and no cabinet.I'll have to make one

WISCOJIM
05-31-2013, 08:19 PM
Must have been the one from Dennis.

wa2ise
05-31-2013, 08:24 PM
Heard that some kits are more valuable if left unbuilt. :scratch2: Not sure why, as all you could do with an unbuilt kit is look at the box and not build it? :scratch2:

kvflyer
06-01-2013, 06:51 AM
Heard that some kits are more valuable if left unbuilt. :scratch2: Not sure why, as all you could do with an unbuilt kit is look at the box and not build it? :scratch2:


I suspect this is true for TV kits. I know for a fact that unbuilt audio kits from Fisher, Scott, Knight-Kit etc. and kits from Heathkit are worth their weight in gold. Just check out "the Auction Site" for that.

47'Plymouth
06-01-2013, 08:46 AM
All I wanted to do is improve my Tv repair skills,by putting together
This kit, use the knowledge gained

47'Plymouth
06-01-2013, 08:57 AM
Please check out my WTB ad in the classifieds for a 23BP4

Chip Chester
06-01-2013, 10:01 AM
Great find.

Here's a cabinet recommendation that I think would be appropriate:

http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12710735&f=PAD%2FpsNotAvailInUS%2FNo

Chip

47'Plymouth
06-01-2013, 11:20 AM
How would that cabinet work for this kit?...I 'll attending a woodworkers guild
Meet,This Monday 3rd and probably will build a new cabinet
From scratch of my own design.. Thanks for the suggestion!
Jody

rld-tv01
06-01-2013, 11:47 AM
Heard that some kits are more valuable if left unbuilt. :scratch2: Not sure why, as all you could do with an unbuilt kit is look at the box and not build it? :scratch2:

Yea, but if you built it whats the resale value for someone who wants to build it. You already had all the fun. Now its just another old tv for sale. Unbuilt "in the box" you are selling dreams.

Richard

jmetal88
06-01-2013, 01:56 PM
How would that cabinet work for this kit?...I 'll attending a woodworkers guild
Meet,This Monday 3rd and probably will build a new cabinet
From scratch of my own design.. Thanks for the suggestion!
Jody

I think that suggestion was supposed to be a joke. A lot of people who think old TVs are worthless turn them into fish tanks, so why not take a fish tank and turn it into an old TV?

Tony V
06-01-2013, 06:36 PM
If i had one of these kits, i would build it also. After all, its what it was intended for. Sometimes its not about the money.

47'Plymouth
06-01-2013, 07:15 PM
I hope to learn to repair TV sets inside and out...I 'll post pics
ASAP of the kit,and demo how its built in stages...
Jody

bgadow
06-01-2013, 11:14 PM
Since you don't have a cabinet to work around, you might be able to use some different crts...you would have to keep the deflection angle the same but other things could maybe be worked around.

47'Plymouth
06-02-2013, 11:03 AM
Would a 17BP4 work for now,until a correct 23"tube can obtained?
Jody

mstaton
06-02-2013, 01:11 PM
They both have different sockets according to the data on the net. That 17" crt uses a focus coil and I don't think the 23" one does

Kevin Kuehn
06-02-2013, 01:18 PM
Besides the 17BP4 is 70 degrees deflection, pretty sure the 23BP4 is 110 degrees. For starters you could use a 8YP4 test CRT.

[edit] just remembered, I think you'd need a socket adapter when using the 8YP4 universal 110 degree test CRT.

AiboPet
06-02-2013, 02:02 PM
Silly question (I think)...but would the electrolytics still go bad in an unbuilt kit?

I had heard it was time as well as operation that dries up electrolytics. I've heard of so many TVs that were fine the last time they ran, and then were stored for so many years, and then had all the various vertical, horizontal problems that come with bad caps.

trojanrabbit
06-02-2013, 02:19 PM
Not a silly question at all.

An electrolytic will degrade if left unused, but can be brought back by "re-forming" it - slowly increasing voltage across the cap until the specified working voltage is reached.

A decades-old electrolytic has a good chance of being dried out, whether it was used or not. Re-forming won't bring those back. If I were to find an old kit and build it, I doubt I'd use any electrolytics or paper caps in it.

47'Plymouth
06-02-2013, 02:39 PM
Well it's not put together yet; I 'm looking at a temporary
Fix until the correct CRT 23BP4...can be located and purchased
Preferably a NIB,NOS CRT see if ya'll can find me one!....Jody

47'Plymouth
06-02-2013, 02:44 PM
Well it's not put together yet; I 'm looking at a temporary
Fix until the correct CRT 23BP4...can be located and purchased
Preferably a NIB,NOS CRT,can ya'll see if you can find me one:scratch2: ....Jody

WISCOJIM
06-02-2013, 02:53 PM
Silly question (I think)...but would the electrolytics still go bad in an unbuilt kit?47'Plymouth would be smart to test them all before building the kit. May save a lot of grief later.

47'Plymouth
06-02-2013, 02:55 PM
Yes,I'll install new type caps and not use NOS ones...

47'Plymouth
06-02-2013, 03:02 PM
Yes,I'll install new type caps and not use the NOS ones...

47'Plymouth
06-05-2013, 09:00 PM
It's located in SAMs 632,..anyone has a scan available?
Jody

47'Plymouth
06-05-2013, 09:08 PM
I have 5AXP4,a Selson test tube setup; I 'm looking at a temporary
Fix until the correct CRT 23BP4...can be located and purchased
Preferably a NIB,NOS CRT,can ya'll see if you can find me one....with a 110*degree
Adapter ...that would be a temp fix until a 23BP4 is located!

WISCOJIM
06-05-2013, 09:36 PM
It's located in SAMs 632,..anyone has a scan available?
Jody
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8493/pf632sedarkay14t23tvkit.jpg

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8493/pf632sedarkay14t23tvkit.jpg

Enjoy!

.

Kevin Kuehn
06-05-2013, 11:56 PM
Being it's a series heater string, be cautious that whatever CRT you use has the same heater current draw as the 23BP4.

47'Plymouth
06-06-2013, 09:12 PM
I want to thank you for the assistance and to Winsco Jim for the schematic
It's been a big help...Dennis told me;the manual did'nt include a schematic
But everything else is in the kit!...Jody

47'Plymouth
06-07-2013, 05:16 PM
Dennis,sent a text that he got his money for the kit today.,
and send it out quick ASAP...I'll have pics of it soon laid out,and build soon

47'Plymouth
06-10-2013, 09:16 PM
Got a 23ANP4 and wire up maybe differently I wait until have the
kit 1st; it will be here Wednesday will have pictures posted ASAP
anyone have a diagram of the 23ANP4??..I got a 6.3 vac filament transformer
For a separate power supply for the CRT
Need to fiqure out the rest of the supply for the tubes

WISCOJIM
06-10-2013, 09:54 PM
http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/168/2/23ANP4.pdf

47'Plymouth
06-11-2013, 06:53 AM
Thanks,WiscoJim:
I like the Slyvania CRT tube pages,it be a big help when the kit arrives
tomorrow,..I wonder what yoke type will work,or does it come with a
Universal type?.

47'Plymouth
06-11-2013, 11:27 AM
Would love to have a sales add for the Arkay Tv kit ,anybody got one!

47'Plymouth
06-12-2013, 09:02 AM
Well the Fedex website said was in South Carolina finally
will have the Tv kit Delivered this afternoon...just like a big Christmas present!!!

47'Plymouth
06-12-2013, 01:08 PM
Just received the Arkay from FedEx and will have photos of it ASAP.
It's simple in design,but looks complicated for an Black&White set
Thanks,Mr.Dennis and friends...