View Full Version : Stromberg Carlson TC-125


Kevin Kuehn
12-24-2012, 01:53 PM
I thought you guys might like to see some more pictures of this somewhat uncommon set. This is the set I posted the Craigslist link to over in the Curbside forum. http://videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=256644

Last Saturday I finally broke down and made the 3 hour journey to go fetch it. I could tell from the sellers photo's that the cabinet was in fair enough condition. What those photo's didn't fully reveal was the extent to which this set had suffered a mouse invasion at some point in the past. Well thankfully the critters along with their smell was long gone. At any rate I wasn't about to leave the set behind after making the 3 hour trip. :no: The set has a GE branded 12LP4 CRT that tested well into the green after only a couple minutes at 6.3 volts. In my book that's a sign of a very strong CRT. I've started the slow and painful process of cleaning the mouse poo off the chassis. I'll post more pictures of how that's going at a later date.

Link to the pictures http://s452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/Kuehn/Stromberg%20Carlson%20TC125/

Kevin Kuehn
12-24-2012, 02:11 PM
I'd be interested in the missing knobs, and the back, if by some miraculous chance...

bandersen
12-24-2012, 04:42 PM
I have some spare metal Stromberg knobs you're welcome to.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8081/8304454531_dc8d610f49_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70039806@N00/8304454531/)

Picture/Volume
Phono 7-13 2-6
Horizontal / Vertical

Eric H
12-24-2012, 05:12 PM
It doesn't look too bad, I rebuilt a chassis like that from the Manhattan model that was a basket case, pee and rust all over but it came out fine.

Does it have the Zoom switch on the tuning shaft? if it does then that is probably the wrong knob on it now.

What size is the missing speaker? I possibly have something that will fit.

M3-SRT8
12-24-2012, 08:13 PM
That's a cool set. You could turn it into a real looker.

Here's mine, a TS-10 with matching stand and 3 speed record changer.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/300cSRT8_photos/Stromberg-Carlson%20TS-10%20Resto/Stromberg-CarlsonTS-10Resto015.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/300cSRT8_photos/Stromberg-Carlson%20TS-10%20Resto/Stromberg-CarlsonTS-10Resto014.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/300cSRT8_photos/Stromberg-Carlson%20TS-10%20Resto/Stromberg-CarlsonTS-10Resto004-3.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/300cSRT8_photos/Stromberg-Carlson%20TS-10%20Resto/Stromberg-CarlsonTS-10Resto009.jpg

Everything works, including the changer.:smoke:

Kevin Kuehn
12-24-2012, 10:17 PM
I have some spare metal Stromberg knobs you're welcome to.


Thanks! PM on the way.

Kevin Kuehn
12-24-2012, 10:35 PM
Does it have the Zoom switch on the tuning shaft? if it does then that is probably the wrong knob on it now.

What size is the missing speaker? I possibly have something that will fit.

I think I've recently seen your Youtube video on that chassis. That one turned out very nice.

No Opera Glass zoom on this one, the center of the tuning shaft goes to a pot. I'm pretty sure that Bakelite knob is not original. I'm a little confused right now to as what all the control functions should be. I have Sams 95A-13, but it's one of those one page preliminary jobs, very hard to read. It doesn't even tell me which control functions are ganged. Eventually I can trace the wiring, for now I'm concentrating on getting the poo off this thing. The set needs a 12" pm speaker, looks like standard 11-5/8" across the bolt holes. Actually I have a 12" I can use, but it's not of the correct vintage.

Lee, Your Stromberg set is a real beauty.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/Kuehn/Stromberg%20Carlson%20TC125/SCTC125Hknobs.jpg

ohohyodafarted
12-25-2012, 02:42 PM
Here is what the restored "opera glass" model looks like

http://antiquetvguy.com/Web%20Pages/The%20Restorations/Stromberg%20Carlson%20TC125/1950-Stromberg-Carlson-TC125.html

Bill Cahill
12-25-2012, 07:10 PM
I have a similar set with the 16GP4 metal picture tube. It has a double D mask.
Mine has big problems, including that the hv cap in hv cage had blown up, and, the damper had a melt down.
I rear my flyback may be toast, but, one day, I'll look into the set.
I don't relish rebuilding it because you have to remove that picture tube to get half thw wiring.
Bill Cahill

Kevin Kuehn
12-25-2012, 09:06 PM
Here is what the restored "opera glass" model looks like


Bob,

Your TC-125 is the only one I found when I Googled the model. Do you know if your speaker is original to your set?

Kevin Kuehn
12-25-2012, 09:11 PM
I have a similar set with the 16GP4 metal picture tube. It has a double D mask.
Mine has big problems, including that the hv cap in hv cage had blown up, and, the damper had a melt down.
I rear my flyback may be toast, but, one day, I'll look into the set.
I don't relish rebuilding it because you have to remove that picture tube to get half thw wiring.
Bill Cahill

Bill, First thing I did was pull my CRT so I could better clean the chassis. On this set it was very easy to pull it straight out the front.

Does anyone know if these various TC-125 models are covered in Riders?

bandersen
12-25-2012, 09:51 PM
Yes, in volume 4 with updates in 5 and 6.

Kevin Kuehn
12-25-2012, 09:54 PM
Thanks.

Bill Cahill
12-26-2012, 04:01 AM
Bill, First thing I did was pull my CRT so I could better clean the chassis. On this set it was very easy to pull it straight out the front.

Does anyone know if these various TC-125 models are covered in Riders?

Mine will only come out the back. To make matters worse, apparently to get more room for the picture tube, they mounted the entire chassis on an empty sub chassis.
Yikes! Alot of dead weight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mine is compltete, and, has a fairly nice case with decorative molding on top.
No doors, though.
Has speaker grill cut out like that of their more deluxe 24" models.
Mine has suffered alot with a blown electrolytic, and, burned resistors. The owner said he plugged it in, and, it made a loud audio hum.
Hope I can fix it.
Bill Cahill

ohohyodafarted
12-26-2012, 02:45 PM
Bob,

Your TC-125 is the only one I found when I Googled the model. Do you know if your speaker is original to your set?

Can't say for sure if it is the one it left the factory with. All I can say is it is the one that was in the set when I got it.. Unfortunately all sets have been in storage for more than16 months now. I cant get at anything until my construction project is finished and I can remove everything from the storage units and bring them all home.

I posted photos of the progress of the construction on my web site yesterday. (link below) The story is listed in the Web site menu as "Bob's Bunker" It's worth taking a look at. It has been 12 months in the planning and construction stages and now construction has been halted until spring due to winter weather.

Kevin Kuehn
12-26-2012, 03:40 PM
Wow Bob, that's one impressive project that you've taken on there. It's clear to me that you take your TV collecting hobby a bit more seriously than myself. I can only imagine what that addition will do to the value of your property. Very interesting indeed. :thmbsp:

Kevin Kuehn
12-28-2012, 09:20 PM
Here's an update on how the chassis cleanup is coming along. I've managed to get the bulk of the mouse poo and rust off the chassis.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/Kuehn/Stromberg%20Carlson%20TC-125%20Chassis%20Cleanup/TC-125chassiscleanup007.jpg
Chassis as found.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/Kuehn/Stromberg%20Carlson%20TC-125%20Chassis%20Cleanup/TC-125chassiscleanup008.jpg
Lower level chassis as found.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/Kuehn/Stromberg%20Carlson%20TC-125%20Chassis%20Cleanup/TC-125chassiscleanup004.jpg
Lower chassis cross brace area that was very rusty.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/Kuehn/Stromberg%20Carlson%20TC-125%20Chassis%20Cleanup/TC-125chassiscleanup001.jpg
I avoided using any aggressive cleaning solution in the high voltage cage area. For that I thoroughly flushed everything with denatured alcohol. I don't think the mice had found an opening into that area.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/Kuehn/Stromberg%20Carlson%20TC-125%20Chassis%20Cleanup/TC-125chassiscleanup002.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/Kuehn/Stromberg%20Carlson%20TC-125%20Chassis%20Cleanup/TC-125chassiscleanup005.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/Kuehn/Stromberg%20Carlson%20TC-125%20Chassis%20Cleanup/TC-125chassiscleanup003.jpg
Lots of detailing yet to be done around the tuner area. I'd like to pull the tuner out in order to better clean it, but I may let that go until at least the set becomes somewhat operational.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/Kuehn/Stromberg%20Carlson%20TC-125%20Chassis%20Cleanup/TC-125chassiscleanup006.jpg
There wasn't too much cleaning needed on the underside of the chassis, but you can see where my cleaning solution has run down from above and turned the cadmium plating a powdery white. I don't have a good place to thoroughly hose down these kinds of projects during the dead of winter, so I'm using a spray bottle filled with water to clean up the messy cleaning residue. For sure it's not an ideal situation. Now I'll need to backtrack and attempt to clean that white powder from the bottom side of the chassis. There's no easy solution to cleaning up behind mice.

Dangler
12-28-2012, 09:46 PM
Kevin, that is looking really good. What kind of cleaner did you use? I have a chassis in somewhat similar condition that I would like to get looking that good.

Dan

Kevin Kuehn
12-28-2012, 10:07 PM
Thanks. I had this stuff that I bought at Menards for cleaning stains from the toilet and sink, so I thought I'd see how it worked on mouse poo. :D
Turns out it cleans mouse and rust off without striping the cad plating off too fast. It really helps if you keep it moving on the surface by scrubbing with a small short bristle brush, otherwise if you let it run down vertical surfaces and leave it to long it leaves streaks. Applying more and rinsing seems to remove the streaks. It really needs to be hosed off good, but I don't have a good indoor area for that operation. In some badly rusted area's I probably used 6-12 applications. Slow painful process.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/Kuehn/Stromberg%20Carlson%20TC-125%20Chassis%20Cleanup/TC-125chassiscleanup009.jpg

Kevin Kuehn
12-28-2012, 10:25 PM
I tried some Permatex rust dissolver in a couple places and found it eats the cad plating off way to fast when I covered too large a area. Also tends to darken the metal after clean up. The CLR actually appears to work as a Cadmium brightener, provided you flush it off well with clean water. I used it straight from the bottle. Takes very little solution and lots of time.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq245/Kuehn/Stromberg%20Carlson%20TC-125%20Chassis%20Cleanup/TC-125chassiscleanup010.jpg

Dangler
12-28-2012, 10:47 PM
Thank's, Kevin. It just so happens I have some CLR under the sink and will give it a try.

decojoe67
01-01-2013, 07:08 PM
That's a cool set. You could turn it into a real looker.

Here's mine, a TS-10 with matching stand and 3 speed record changer.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/300cSRT8_photos/Stromberg-Carlson%20TS-10%20Resto/Stromberg-CarlsonTS-10Resto015.jpg

Everything works, including the changer.:smoke:

That set is awesome! I have never seen an actual example of one of those and I've been into vintage TV's for many years. The odd a-symetrical design gives it a real early unique look. It looks like you have a real nice collection there!
Joe