View Full Version : 1950's photo of a pretty rare set


Captain Video
10-08-2012, 03:49 PM
Surfing through Ebay, I found this 1950's photo showing an operational Westinghouse H22T155:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Three-Women-Watching-TV-In-The-1950s-8x10-Reprint-Of-Old-Photo-/150914989910?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item23233bff56

It is this model:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/westinghouse_h22t155.html

Captain Video
10-08-2012, 03:52 PM
Ooops, the Ebay link is not working. Type "Three Women Watching TV In The 1950's" on the search space on the Ebay site and you will find the photo.

David Roper
10-08-2012, 04:21 PM
You have to right-click, then open a new tab (or window). It may be a Westinghouse color set...but it very likely is not. I had a blond console with identical control layout that was a painfully ordinary black & white set. It did have series filaments and a ZAPPING! hot chassis just like its color clone, but otherwise the similarities were confined to the outside.

David Roper
10-08-2012, 04:32 PM
Messing around with the photo bumping up the light level reveals no evidence of a color convergence panel on the left side.

kvflyer
10-08-2012, 06:32 PM
Back to the original set in question, does anyone have one of those 1957 Westinghouse color sets? Also, can you just imagine trying to find a CRT for it? ;)

Sandy G
10-08-2012, 07:01 PM
Still a neat picture...

Eric H
10-08-2012, 07:15 PM
Back to the original set in question, does anyone have one of those 1957 Westinghouse color sets? Also, can you just imagine trying to find a CRT for it? ;)

Right here:

http://videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=246123&highlight=westinghouse

Penthode
10-08-2012, 08:15 PM
Too bad the Ebay pic wasn't in color Also too bad the anonymous collector couldn't have rotated the deflection yoke to provide an upright picture. Or perhaps it was screenshot of a past NASA space mission?

I seem to recall the same cabinet used for a black and white set I once came across. Nevertheless, the convergence panel depicted in the ETF photo appears to be on the other side of the Ebay photo TV cabinet. I cannot see any difference between the ETF set and the Ebay photograph.

old_tv_nut
10-08-2012, 08:29 PM
Surely not a color set - Westinghouse would not have allowed a photo of a misadjusted picture on the color set, plus the subject of the photo clearly is instructional TV and not color per se.

tubetwister
10-09-2012, 08:51 PM
Try this link it works. Good that you guys are able to preserve that history .

http://www.earlytelevision.org/Deksnis/home_page.html

Penthode
10-09-2012, 09:59 PM
Surely not a color set - Westinghouse would not have allowed a photo of a misadjusted picture on the color set, plus the subject of the photo clearly is instructional TV and not color per se.

Very true. I was only mentioning that the cabinets only looked identical. Perhaps Westinghouse, for its experiment, simply used a standard production cabinet and stuffed it with their color prototype chassis?

Eric H
10-09-2012, 10:57 PM
Where does it say this photo has anything to do with Westinghouse?
Looks like a Closed Circuit Classroom to me, note the Chalkboard and the Teacher looking Woman standing next to it. :yes:

Maybe they were watching the Letterboxed version.

David Roper
10-09-2012, 11:18 PM
I agree the taking of the photo had no relation to Westinghouse and I can't think of a reason there had to have been one if the set actually was one of their color TVs.

jr_tech
10-09-2012, 11:22 PM
I tried the usual enhancements on the photo and could not see the convergence panel. The speaker is indeed in the correct location, however. On the color set, the convergence panel sits quite flush with the side of the set, and the color and hue knobs are recessed, so it/they might not show up very well (or at all) in the eBay photo, which is shot only slightly off axis.
For grins, I ordered a copy of the photo for a closer look.

Add: Attached is a photo from approx the same angle... the front flash helps, compared to the eBay photo in a dark corner.
jr

David Roper
10-09-2012, 11:39 PM
I was just about to attach a copy of the pic to the thread for posterity, but now I'll leave that to you. :)

Gregb
06-21-2015, 02:34 PM
One of these sets has come up for sale in my area, they tell me that someone valued the set at $3000 and they are asking $2400 and say the picture tube is shot. Anyone have an idea what the value truly is?

Gregb

David Roper
06-23-2015, 02:15 AM
Those figures are in the ballpark, though if the tube really is no good that reduces the value considerably.

Gregb
06-23-2015, 07:47 AM
I will find out on Saturday.

Gregb

Steve D.
06-23-2015, 02:25 PM
The Westinghouse set the 3 ladies are watching sure looks like the Westinghouse 22" color set in the photos & ad I've seen. Other then the Westy 22" color I saw at Steve K's home. I saw one other at a used TV store/repair shop in Westwood, Ca. many years ago.

-Steve D.

jr_tech
06-27-2015, 10:27 PM
The Westinghouse set the 3 ladies are watching sure looks like the Westinghouse 22" color set in the photos & ad I've seen.

Months ago, I ordered a copy of the eBay print and could see no evidence of the convergence panel in the shadows. A photo of my set from approximately the same angle (with bright front flash) *does* show the panel (see my photo in post 14), but I can imagine that detail could easily be lost in the shadows of the eBay print or if the photo was taken at a *slightly* different angle.
Today, with renewed interest, I tried viewing the print with a strong backlight, and some additional detail in the shadowed area became faintly visible. I am convinced that I can see the front edge of the convergence panel *and* the "color" knob as well. I am convinced that the set in the print is, indeed a 22" color Westinghouse.

jr