Geez. I really hope this doesn't end up a $0.99 gag gift (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Black-White-ADMIRAL-TV-1950s_W0QQitemZ250433781754QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item3a4f043ffa&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A5|65%3A10|39%3A2|240%3A1318|301%3A1 |293%3A1|294%3A50) :(



http://i.ebayimg.com/04/!BTUh1wwCGk~$(KGrHgoOKisEjlLmIUKBBKH)Yge-Gw~~_1.JPG

This guy posted another photo. Bakelite set with no cracks. I live about 90 minutes from there. I will try to get it.

I wish somebody would give ME a "Gag" gift like that...I'd hug their neck ! Be a helluva lot better than a tie or belt, or a bunch of monogrammed snot rags...Yeah, I know, I'm sick, ain't I ? (grin)

This ain't no 'gag gift'. This is a cool set and looks to be in great shape. Hope someone gets it and gives it a good home.

Gilbert

Very similar to the Twonky set.

http://learning2share.blogspot.com/2008/02/some-screenshots-from-twonky-1953.html

The control door is worth many times the opening bid. I have this basic set, without the fancy gold front, and it is a great performer.

So Johnboy55, did you get it yet?

That set is DEFINITELY no gag gift. :no: It's beautiful! :yes: :thmbsp:

Admiral did nice things with gold.

http://antiqueradio.org/art/admir01.jpg

Phil Nelson

They sure did Phil, they sure did......

So Johnboy55, did you get it yet?

That set is DEFINITELY no gag gift. :no: It's beautiful! :yes: :thmbsp:

Not yet.

There is still another 3 days until the auction ends. I'm the one with the 99 cent bid.

Fingers are crossed for you! I'd jump on that like a rabbit during mating season if it were in driving range.

Wish I had that gag gift.. Looks almost exactly like the twonky, except the color, and, maybe the size of screen.
Boy, that's a great movie.
Hans Konreid was a good actor.
Bill Cahill

I showed a friend some stills from the twonky last night. He recognized Konried from another movie he stared in the same year 'The 5000 Fingers of Dr. T' (written by Dr. Seuss). Now that's a weird movie !

Ahh, yes. That was the wierdest movie he made. Imagine the size of that gigantic piano keyboard he made his students sit at.
Bill Cahill

I ended up paying 99 cents for the TV!

Awesome :thmbsp: I'm so glad you saved this set!

Hopefully it won't turn out to be a mistake - like missing the power transformer or the CRT is broken.

There is still about a $40.00 cost in picking it up. It's about 90 miles each way. Also, here in New York there are bridge tolls. I don't want to sound cheap but the tolls will cost about $14.00 and the gas about $25.00.

I'll post pictures after I pick it up.

Even if it's a dud I bet you could part it out and recoup your expenses.

I picked up the Admiral TV.

It's bigger then I expected. It has a 17BP4A for the CRT and the chassis is a 21F1. I'm still trying to determine the model number but it's similar to a 17K11. It came with the original instruction packet! The bakelite has no cracks and the TV weighs a ton. It came out of the original owners home.

It measures 18" wide x 18" height x 21" deep.

Not bad for 99 cents - plus about $40.00 for gas and tolls.

Awesome! That's so cool to get all that paperwork.

This is a picture of the TV in my garage. I'm reaching around the back and using my hand as the antenna. My other hand is trying to take the picture without seeing the screen.

It's a good sign that things are working this good so far! I'm surprised that a 1951 TV is still working this good. Next on the schedule is to replace the caps.

To a color collector this set is particularly important because it has the CBS Color interface connector on the rear of the chassis. Could you check under the chassis to see if the connector is wired? If it is, that would be quite a find.

Checking the serial numbers, your set is quite a bit lower than mine and so may (unlike mine) be factory wired for a color converter. If so, it would be very interesting to see if the flyback in your set is the 'color' version.

Pete

Awesome! Best 99 cents ever spent! I'm happy for you, that is one great set! I have a hole in my collection that needs to be filled with sets like that.

99 cents, huh ? Wanna double yer money ? (grin)

To a color collector this set is particularly important because it has the CBS Color interface connector on the rear of the chassis. Could you check under the chassis to see if the connector is wired? If it is, that would be quite a find.

Checking the serial numbers, your set is quite a bit lower than mine and so may (unlike mine) be factory wired for a color converter. If so, it would be very interesting to see if the flyback in your set is the 'color' version.

Pete

I hope to bring the TV in from the garage within the next few days. I have something on my workbench in the basement right now. Then I will be able to tell if the connector is wired. I'll post more pictures then.

To a color collector this set is particularly important because it has the CBS Color interface connector on the rear of the chassis. Could you check under the chassis to see if the connector is wired? If it is, that would be quite a find.

Checking the serial numbers, your set is quite a bit lower than mine and so may (unlike mine) be factory wired for a color converter. If so, it would be very interesting to see if the flyback in your set is the 'color' version.

Pete

I got bored so I cleared the workbench and brought the TV inside.

The color interface connector is wired as shown in the picture. Also is shown a picture of the flyback. I don't know if this is enough to tell which flyback it is.

It's a very heavy TV. The bakelite cabinet alone weighs 28 pounds and the bakelite is 1/4" thick.

:lurk:

WHOO!!! Good job on getting the set man! And awesome to see it works great too!

That is one fine tv. Those people didn't know what they had. It is so cool to see the color adapter plug is wired. That fly looks great, almost new. Looks like a keeper!!!

The color interface connector is wired as shown in the picture. Also is shown a picture of the flyback. Thanks for the pictures; nicely significant set your $0.99 acquired! I'll bounce your photos against my set and post result.

Pete

Almost finished.

Like i told you over on ARF...all of my Admirals did just like yours where they worked as found when i got them. Yours is no exception. I recapped all of mine also just for a safety measure. I know some of the guys dont hold these in as much reguard compared to RCA's, Zenith's, ect but i love my Admirals. I have found them good in performance and reliability. I play my Admirals more than any of my other sets because of this. What a nice picture!
-Tony

I love the Admirals too, they do generally hold up well. The picture is great on that set, excellent contrast and focus.

I checked the flys of each Admiral and prepared this page since my 'space' for images is full on this forum.

http://ct-100.home.att.net/admiral1951early-late.html

The page includes the following CBS Color info:

In 1951, CBS defined two types of color add-on devices: adapters and converters.

Color 'adapters' were the electronic add-on boxes and modifications to existing receivers that allowed those conventional black-and-white receivers to display 405-line, 144-field/s CBS Color Television programs in black-and-white.

Color 'converters' were the color wheels, with driving electronics, that could be used in conjunction with 'adapted' receivers to show the CBS Color programs in color. They were meant to sit in front of an adapted receiver.

Since my Admiral did not have the connector wired, I could not reverse engineer the circuit and so am not sure if the connectors under consideration were for adapters or converters. My first guess is that it is an adapter interface.

Also, vintage CBS documentation calls for a dual-frequency flyback for use in converters. Little information is available on the dual freq flys, but one addition is an extra tap. It would be interesting to investigate the breakout of early- and late-set flybacks.

Pete

Completed pictures.

I still have to work on height & width.

It came out pretty nice.

Sorry for the photo quality.

I think I'll watch this one on Friday night during the change over.