View Full Version : Two Sharp TV's. No picture on either.


MRX37
03-27-2009, 11:06 AM
I found two Sharp TV's that have no picture. One is a 32 inch 32R-S480 made in 2001, and the other is a 25 inch 25K-S100 made in 1998. Here are pictures of the tags on the back of both sets.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2zf6a81.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/2mnq96r.jpg

The 32 inch powers up to the point where I can hear the degaussing circuit. I do not hear the CRT scanning. Bad HOT maybe?

The 25 inch one is more interesting. It powers up, I can hear the CRT scanning, and there's even sound. But no picture. I thought I could play with the flyback to get retrace lines, but no go. Nothing on the screen. Yet I'm sure it's drawing a raster, because I can hear it.

EDIT: disregard the 32 inch Sharp TV. The CRT is broken at the neck.

radiotvnut
03-27-2009, 11:16 AM
Can you tell if the CRT filament is lit in the 25" one? I've seen that problem many times in TV's over the years.

That 32" set could have any number of problems. You might get lucky and it only be loose connections.

MRX37
03-27-2009, 11:51 AM
Can you tell if the CRT filament is lit in the 25" one? I've seen that problem many times in TV's over the years.



I could not see a glow from the CRT element on the 25 inch TV. I gave the CRT enough time to warm up. Then after I shut it iff, I touched the neck with my finger and it was still cold. So I assume the guns aren't getting power.

MRX37
03-27-2009, 01:28 PM
Forget about the 32 inch sharp TV. The CRT is broken at the neck.

radiotvnut
03-27-2009, 01:33 PM
It seems like we're both having the same bad luck with TV's lately. With me, it's always the nice, big sets that I could get some decent $ for that end up costing too much to fix or they are a dog to fix. Let me bring home some mid '80's goldstar with 30 cigarette burns on the case and I'll have it fixed in ten minutes out of my junk. Of course, no one wants something like that because it's NOT MODERN ENOUGH LOOKING!

MRX37
03-27-2009, 02:10 PM
Yeah. Well, the 25 inch one I can get a bit of cash for, if I can figure out why the CRT element isn't lighting. You said you've seen this problem before... I tried reseating the neck board and the connections that plug into it.

radiotvnut
03-27-2009, 04:40 PM
The CRT filament will likely be powered by the flyback. There is likely a low ohms (less than 10 ohms) resistor in the CRT filament line that's open. You could have an open CRT filament, an open winding on the flyback, or a cracked PC board trace. The far more likely culprit is the resistor in the CRT filament circuit if the filaments do not light but the set is alive otherwise.

MRX37
03-27-2009, 04:57 PM
Resistor in the CRT filiment circuit? Thanks a bunch. That's on the neck board right?

radiotvnut
03-27-2009, 05:09 PM
It may be on the main chassis.

MRX37
03-27-2009, 05:11 PM
Ohhh joy..... it's a pretty small chassis, but finding that resistor...

It's going to be a fun night tonight........

radiotvnut
03-27-2009, 05:17 PM
It's in Sams 4043. I'll see if I have a copy, I'll see exactly where the resistor is.

MRX37
03-27-2009, 05:39 PM
Thanks a lot :)

radiotvnut
03-27-2009, 07:25 PM
I don't have the Sams on that one; but, the CRT pin layout should be the same as for most other TV's of the period. The filament pins should be 4 and 5 and there should be something like a 2.2 ohm, 2 watt resistor connected between one of the filament pins and the flyback. The other pin should go to ground.

Pin one is the focus terminal (the one inside the triangle)
Pin three is the blue cathode
Pins 4 and 5 are the filament
Pin 6 is ground
Pin 7 is the red cathode
Pin 8 is G2 (screen). Connects to the G2 lead from the flyback.
Pin 9 is the green cathode.

MRX37
03-27-2009, 07:26 PM
2.2 ohm 2 watt? 2 watt, so it'd be a bigger one. Okay. I'll start hunting.

MRX37
03-30-2009, 03:29 PM
Ooooh I think I just discovered why the CRT guns won't light. The neck board has a big ol crack in it... I didn't notice it before.

I'm going to try to glue it back together and fix all the solder traces... Wish me luck.

radiotvnut
03-30-2009, 04:50 PM
The best way to fix those broken traces is to follow the traces back to where a solder connection is. Then, use regular insulated hook-up wire to jump from point A to point B. I fixed a Sharp TV by doing this a few weeks ago.

MRX37
03-30-2009, 05:15 PM
The best way to fix those broken traces is to follow the traces back to where a solder connection is. Then, use regular insulated hook-up wire to jump from point A to point B. I fixed a Sharp TV by doing this a few weeks ago.

This is partly what I'm doing, especally for the tiny traces. However the crack runs along some larger traces, so I just sanded off the coating and bridged them with solder.

I'm going to use my glue gun to insulate the places where I've soldered the wires to. Since the glue is plastic, I figure that will be fine, it being non conductive. They're soldered pretty well, but I want to guard against the chance of them coming loose as best as I can.

holmesuser01
03-30-2009, 05:29 PM
Go for it. I fixed a crack on the main board of a Sony KV27EXR25 chassis that radiated about 4 inches away from the flyback due to the flyback having no hold-down screws installed by the factory. After a move across town, the set no longer worked, and I got it. I've run it non-stop since 1991, and other than the CRT getting a bit iffy, it still runs great.

MRX37
03-30-2009, 05:39 PM
Okay! It's got a picture! I didn't see any tinting in the static, so I guess that means all 3 color guns are working.

Was it a good idea to add hot glue to where I soldered the wires? My rationalization is that it'll prevent them from going anywhere, but that neck board is pretty close to those hot color guns... I fear the glue will melt... The board doesn't look like it's seen much heat though...