View Full Version : U.S. and Sovjet color tv set working together on one photo


yagosaga
09-16-2008, 02:03 PM
Hi folks,

here is a photo which shows IMHO the first time in the world a working Sovjet color tv set, the Raduga 706, and an U.S. working color tv set, the RCA Adrich, on one photo. The Sovjet color tv set was operated with SECAM input, the U.S. color tv set was operated with NTSC input.

The next time I hope that I can arrange a third color tv set with both, a PAL one.

Here are some photos of the Sovjet Raduga.


http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_1.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_2.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_3.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_4.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_5.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_6.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_7.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_8.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_9.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_10.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_12.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_13.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_14.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_15.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_16.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_17.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_18.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_19.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_20.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_21.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_22.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_23.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga_24.jpg
http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold/archiv/TV/cccp/img/Raduga706inBetrieb.jpg

Kind regards,
Eckhard

zenithfan1
09-16-2008, 09:14 PM
WOW! that Sovjet is really cool looking, I wish they were around here. Way cool seeing it next to that CTC-5

old_tv_nut
09-16-2008, 10:15 PM
Thanks for the pictures

firenzeprima
09-17-2008, 12:58 AM
very interesting, thanks for the pics!

ChrisW6ATV
09-17-2008, 02:49 AM
Getting the USA and Soviets to work together in one room always was extremely hard to accomplish. :D

Great pictures, Eckhard.

freakaftr8
09-17-2008, 03:43 AM
Yes very nice pics indeed! I can see between the two sets how predominant the color aspects are between the two , for instance the green in the upper left on the RCA is more emerald like and the flesh tone of the lady's arm appear to be richened although the chroma levels are about the same.

Sandy G
09-17-2008, 05:33 AM
Awrite, Eckhard !! Good job ! Way to go !

Telecolor 3007
09-17-2008, 04:02 PM
If you ask me, I think the "R.C.A." haves better image than that "Raduga (Rainbow)"

zenith2134
09-17-2008, 04:57 PM
Seems to me they are just very different beasts. Both produce amazing pictures for what they are IMO....and they are damn close in terms of color reproduction and overall quality.

BTW, nice pictures!:thmbsp:

old_tv_nut
09-17-2008, 09:13 PM
Eckhard,

Looking a the picture a bit more, I notice that the highlights of the Raduga are burned out to white. (Look at the red hat, and the performer's cheek and hand.) Is this the way the screen appears, or is it an artifact of the camera you used to take the picture?

- Wayne

yagosaga
09-18-2008, 05:57 AM
The highlights on the screens are an artifact of the camera. The R.C.A. has more saturated colors due to the range of the color control. SECAM does not provide such a large range of color control. But I believe that with a correct color adjustment, both sets might be able to reproduce similar picture quality.

The green of the 59LK3Z is more emerald than the green of our PAL color tv sets, but it is not so emerald like the green of the 21AXP22A.

In the next days, I will repeat this test with a more detailed picture resolution.

- Eckhard

yagosaga
10-08-2008, 04:08 PM
Hi,

recently I found that the picture tube removal of the Raduga is much easier than with other color tv sets over here in Germany. Normally, one has to remove the entire chassis to pull the picture tube out from the back of the set.

The picture tube in the Raduga can be removed from the front of the set. One can remove the bezel and pull the picture tube out of the set without removing the chassis or parts of it.

Does somebody know whether this kind of picture tube removal is also applied to U.S. color tv sets?

Kind regards,
Eckhard

wa2ise
10-08-2008, 06:57 PM
If you ask me, I think the "R.C.A." has a better image than that "Raduga (Rainbow)"

I don't suppose that that R.C.A. = "Russian Communists of Asia"? :D

yagosaga
10-09-2008, 06:00 AM
Hi,

the picture of the Raduga ist brighter and has more contrast than the R.C.A. Aldrich. But this depends on the newer picture tube, the R.C.A. is more than twenty years older than the Raduga.
The Sovjet 59LK3Z picture tube was introduced in 1967, and it was used in the color tv sets until the 1980s.
Today I have got a Юность Ц-440/Д (Junost C-440) color tv set with a Sovjet 32LK2C picture tube. I have cleaned the set, but I have to check it first, before I plug it in. It is made for SECAM OIRT television standard.

Kind regards,
Eckhard

bgadow
10-09-2008, 03:05 PM
I know of one American company that made color sets where the crt removed from the front: Motorola.

yagosaga
10-09-2008, 03:12 PM
Hi bgadow,

I know of one American company that made color sets where the crt removed from the front: Motorola.

This is really interesting. All the Sovjet color tv sets (except the portables) have crts removed from the front.

Meanwhile I have checked the Junost color tv set. The set was very dirty, I have to clean it for half an hour. There were breaks between the main switch and the soldering on the board, easy to fix. Although the set was made in 1987, the chassis looks like a mid-1970s chassis. E.H.T. is generated with a tripler.

Here are two photos of the set.

BTW: this color tv set has a two-color hue or tint control like the Sovjet Jantar color tv set.

Kind regards,
Eckhard