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sampson159
05-11-2008, 10:15 PM
scored a rca xl-100 from 1974 at the early television museum.this is a new set!! still boxed and palletised,from thompson electronics.they had two units. one was early american with legs and this one.still bolted to pallett. no bids at the silent auction. i bid,but i think someone lost it. i had to leave early:(kentucky derby).steve called me and i picked it up saturday.got it for way less than the bid.34 years of storage didnt help this unit.all controls were extremely dirty and the tuner was a mess.thats the bad news.the good news-after a routine set-up,this set rules!!!beautiful 70s color. i remember those days.the only drawback is a particle board cabinet with vinyl woodgrain.i can live with that.forgot how good those rca crts were back then.will post pics soon!btw-he has a dumont roundie in the back-rca clone.anyone interested?

rcaman
05-11-2008, 10:32 PM
i for one would like to see a picture of the set. what chassis is in the set. steve

Eric H
05-12-2008, 03:45 PM
NIB?!? :drool: Awesome find, I'd like some pictures too please!

MRX37
05-12-2008, 04:00 PM
HOLY S**T! man I've always wanted to see one of those when they were new.

wkand
05-12-2008, 04:06 PM
Congratulations!

I want to see the BOX... <grin> This musta been from a deep dark corner of a former RCA warehouse if Thompson was selling it. When did this magical event occur?

zenithfan1
05-12-2008, 06:07 PM
Those sets are nice, I am glad you picked one up. If we had the room in the van I would have grabbed one myself. Not every day that you see NIB stuff from the 70's!! The early american was nice, it only had a few rub marks from something sitting on the box. I wonder who got that one??

Chad Hauris
05-12-2008, 07:02 PM
I saw those sets on the museum page...one of those looked like a CTC-68. Very nice find!

rcaman
05-12-2008, 09:36 PM
we bought a new 25" rca xl100 in 1975 it had the ctc168 chassis and it was a very good tv set. steve

sampson159
05-13-2008, 09:35 PM
here are some pics of my xl-100. also some pics of my infocus 106" dlp projector in my movie room.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/sampson159/P5120265.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/sampson159/P5120267.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/sampson159/P5120269.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/sampson159/P5120288.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/sampson159/P5120292.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/sampson159/P5120293.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/sampson159/P5120294.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/sampson159/P5120304.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/sampson159/P5120305.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/sampson159/P5120308.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/sampson159/P5120310.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/sampson159/P5120283.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh69/sampson159/P5120285.jpg

the last two are my projector.

mr_fixer
05-14-2008, 12:45 AM
That is awesome! you did keep the box for future generations?

zenithfan1
05-14-2008, 07:52 PM
Just spotted the pics, you made out like a bandit on this one Ron!! The picture is gorgeous! Best I've seen on an XL-100. That chassis is gleaming! I must say I'm a bit jealous {happy grin} We should have strapped the other one to the roof of the van!!LOL!! Would have been worth it for a picture like that!

zenith2134
05-14-2008, 08:53 PM
You can truly eat off of that chassis. Amazing find!

You're kind of lucky that the set's original electrolytics stayed good with no use after all those years.

I wouldn't go easy with the user picture controls on this set considering its (babied) history! I mean, even with heavy use these sets still turn up working after 30 years.

sampson159
05-14-2008, 10:05 PM
thanks ! contrast is set at minimum.my mom had a set like that back in the late 80s.tube went south and i put in a sylvania 25vap22.good swap.i like this one alot and it will go to my room beside the zenith.can t wait to get that sylvania from bryan.my triple crown!!will post pics after i do a real set-up on it.

rcaman
05-15-2008, 12:23 PM
i very well remember the xl100 sticker on the face of the tube. even though my mon ordered our xl100 when it was delivered dad wouldnt allow the sticker to come off for a couple or three days to make sure we were going to keep it. he thought seriously about having a new crt installed in our old admiral roundie. he said this rca is to bright and to yellow he was just not used to the vivid colors of a solid state set. we kept the set and the dealer patched up our old roundie and sold it foe us we got $50.00 for it. steve

Big Dave
05-15-2008, 05:09 PM
Ron, Nice score. If you need boards and that, I have stock in Warren if you would ever need them. The pic on your set is great. I think I also have a CRT for the XL or Colortrak series. If you need parts, give me a email.

Jeffhs
05-16-2008, 12:09 AM
Speaking of RCA's XL-100, I've wondered for some time why the company held on to that designation for so long, and for that matter, when they finally dropped it. My RCA (Thomson) CTC-185 (bought new eight years ago) has "XL-100" at the upper left corner of the cabinet, above the CRT. I called RCA/Thomson's business offices in Indianapolis several years ago and asked what "XL-100" means these days, years after the original. Was told that XL100 is just a model designation, nothing more and nothing less. The explanation may be something very similar to why Zenith has held on to their "lightning bolt" Z trademark as long as they have; the trademark is still on the instruction manuals for televisions actually manufactured by LG, which may or may not have the lightning bolt logo below the flat panel displays.

rcaman
05-16-2008, 08:49 AM
xl00 means extended life 100% solid state. steve

Chad Hauris
05-16-2008, 09:39 AM
Looks like a Seeburg LPC-480 or PFEAU1 there too!

sampson159
05-16-2008, 04:16 PM
good eye! thats a seeburg lpc-1.i got that from an elderly man in elyria ohio. he owned it for over 42 years.it was clean outside but the switches were so dirty it wouldnt even scan. cleaned it up and it works well. i have a rock-ola 432 coronado also. will post pics of it and my cavalier coke machine and the u.s. popcorn machine-the only known unit in existence!

zenithfan1
05-16-2008, 04:39 PM
Hey Ron! I know we're getting a bit OT but man, it sounds like you have some really cool stuff! Next time I'm in OH I'm coming to your house!

Jeffhs
05-16-2008, 07:13 PM
xl00 means extended life 100% solid state. steve

I understand that. But why is RCA (Thomson) still using XL100 some 20+ years after introducing the first 100-percent SS extended-life sets? My best guess is that they, like Zenith, don't want to see the designation go into the public domain; that or else RCA is still very proud of its original XL100 TV chassis design, and they want the world to know it. (Was RCA the first U.S. television manufacturer to have 100-percent solid-state sets in its product line? If so, the company is justified in hanging on to the XL-100 designation, well over 20 years after introducing the first sets with this chassis design.)

BTW, I believe the "extended life" claim in XL-100. My own RCA CTC185 is still going strong (original CRT with a beautiful picture, as well) after eight years of daily use, with only one repair (actually two repairs for the same problem) in all that time; the RF port to which the antenna/cable connects snapped off the tuner PC board, once IIRC in 2000, the second time [!] a year or so later. (Neither repair, however, was covered by my set's warranty; I had to pay out of my own pocket both times, and it wasn't cheap.:no:) Even the on-board tuner hasn't been a problem since the ground points were resoldered the last time the set was worked on.

I'm expecting this TV to last years now (well into the all-digital age beginning next year), as the on-board tuner was the main sticking point in the CTC185s. Seems as if RCA/Thomson finally got it right (thank goodness) with the CTC203 and its successors, which have the tuner mounted separately from the main chassis. What gets me, however, is this: Why on earth did it take them so long to correct this problem? I'd have thought they would have known (or at least suspected) something was very wrong when the CTC185, and other chassis using the on-board tuner, were turning up for warranty service left and right with cracked solder joints around the tuner and corrupted EEPROMs. Since RCA/Thomson was footing the bills for each and every one of these warranty repairs, it could not have shown very well in the company's profit/loss statements either.

andy
05-16-2008, 07:25 PM
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radiotvnut
05-16-2008, 07:58 PM
The solid state Motorola used the TS934 (IIRC) "works in a drawer" chassis. I think this came out in '67. The only tube in it was the HV rectifier.

The RCA CTC40 came out a year or two later and it also used a HV rectifier tube. The RCA was not a modular chassis.

I actually had examples of both sets years ago when I was a teenager. The CTC40 was an early version with "RCA Victor New-Vista color Solid-State" on the front. It had a burned yoke and severe CRT cataracts. I never did find a yoke and the set got tossed

The Motorola had a tuner or IF problem as well as a weak CRT w/ green halo. It, too got tossed. Every now and then, my parents would get on a tear and I'd have to clean out. I'd never toss an example of those two sets today.

I also had an early 19" solid state Trans-Vista color portable when I was an early teen. I think the chassis was CTC59 and it had plug in modules similar to the XL100. No, I didn't toss that one. It got fixed and sold so I could buy tube radios.

I've seen the XL100 logo plastered on RCA TV's as late as 2000. It was a basic mono 27" TV with no kind of A/V jacks. I also remember seeing "ColorTrak", "ColorTrak 2000", and "ColorTrak Plus" on RCA's up into the late '90's. I think the "ColorTrak Plus" designation replaced the "ColorTrak 2000" designation. All the newer higher end RCA's that I've seen are designated "Entertainment series". I guess the latter is what replaced the "ColorTrak" designation.

1980'slover
05-16-2008, 09:29 PM
dang that thing reminds me of my two consoles tvs made by rca i forgot the models but one was made in 1983 and it was a colortrack, and the other was made in 84 and it had a remote

1980'slover
05-16-2008, 09:31 PM
i would polish the wood on both every weekend the 83 was bigger then the 84 and it was a dark brown color, the 84 was a light brown

bgadow
05-16-2008, 11:12 PM
Ron, I'm expecting the "10-cent" tour when I get out there!

Chad Hauris
05-17-2008, 12:13 AM
I know the ColorTrak name was used beginning on some of the last delta gun sets (CTC-92 maybe?)
There was also AccuColor Solid State....AccuColor was usually used on some of the last tube type RCA color sets and AccuColor Solid State on some of the modular sets just before the XL-100 designation came out.

radiotvnut
05-17-2008, 12:40 AM
I know the ColorTrak name was used beginning on some of the last delta gun sets (CTC-92 maybe?)
There was also AccuColor Solid State....AccuColor was usually used on some of the last tube type RCA color sets and AccuColor Solid State on some of the modular sets just before the XL-100 designation came out.

I believe the first ColorTrak chassis I saw was, I think, a 25" CTC81 from '76. There was also the 19" CTC74. These chassis would fold down for service and the sets were heavy as lead. Two of these that I ran into had ultrasonic remote control with a motorized varactor tuner.

I also saw a couple of late '70's RCA consoles that had "XL-100 ColorTrak" plastered on them! I'd forgotten about that until just now. I think that may have been the CTC92 chassis.

sampson159
05-17-2008, 11:20 AM
that colortrak from 76 was the top of line set or rca.had 2 of those back in the day.the best crt rca ever made.real wood cabinet,no expense spared.here in columbus,those were purchased from lazarus.very costly................and well worth it!