View Full Version : Canada Post beats the GE 10T4
Tube TV 10-30-2007, 03:25 AM I got the 10T4 today , I got a real shock when I opened the box .
The chassis was bent where they had most likely dropped the box .
As all of us know , the chassis , is made of heavy plate .
The TV was shipped with the CRT front , facing up , and the socket facing down . the seller done a exellent job of packing the TV . it was noted on the box to ship in this position , and also that it was FRAGILE , and DO NOT DROP . When I opened the box , I found the knobs , rattling around on the front of the unit , I assumed that the chassis was not bolted in and it had slid down out of the cabinet . , on further inspection I descovered that the set bolted in , and the box had been dropped so hard that it bent it in 1\2 to 3\4 of a inch . This chassis is made out of 1\16 " plate ! it also bent the stem control , I think it's for the horizontal frequency , or somthing like that .
It is on a bakelite mount , which is also toast .
also this pulled the POT for the contrast control apart , when the knob pulled off of it .
The CRT , is still good after all this , and the tough little 10T4 would actually produce some :banana:RASTER:banana:
And the cabinet was not damaged in any way .
Im going to look into getting some sort of compensation out of Canada post for these damages . There was $300.00 worth of insurance on the package , and it was packaged well .
Its worth a try , anyway ?
kbmuri 10-30-2007, 09:37 AM /rant on
Be happy the CRT survived. My FADA via UPS (another post) had the stem of the on/off/volume control rammed so hard it actually split the pot body in half where it's soldered on the chassis.
I've had 5 TVs mailed in about 5 years. The Fada was a complete loss, a Crosley had the 1/16th plate steel chassis-bend just like you describe, an Admiral had the deflection plates of an otherwise good 7JP4 rattled loose (CRT is destroyed). A Capehart had a significant hard dent put in the otherwise pristine cabinet. Only one GE arrived in the same condition it was sent. Pretty poor odds.
I recently had two large console TVs shipped from southern California by North American Van Lines. I knew someone who was moving from there to my area and tagged them along. Both (very heavy) TV sets arrived perfectly intact, exactly as sent. So it CAN be done. And of course, all the sets I loaded onto my own pickup truck bed arrived perfectly intact. I just think the mail/UPS/Fedex/etc don't give a crap. They work on a pretty cheap margin and a lot of volume and throw stuff to get it done quickly. Just too rough for vintage TV sets. Which part of "Fragile", "Glass", and "Do Not Drop" don't they understand?
/rant off
bgadow 10-30-2007, 11:48 AM Sad to say, I'm not surprised. I always wince when I hear a set being shipped. It can be done without damage but the track record sure isn't good. You have to remember that it WILL be dropped. I joke with the clerk at the post office that I mark my packages "fragile-glass" not to prevent dropping but to prevent them from running it over with a truck! The best you can do is overpack it. I have a 15" portable I am preparing to ship. The box I'm using once held a 25" color TV. Lots of room for padding, but a big box. (too big for the post office)
As for the insurance, it seems you have nothing to lose for your troubles, provided they don't require you to turn over the set to them.
ChrisW6ATV 10-30-2007, 01:21 PM What really stinks though, with UPS at least, is that when we use an extra-large box full of padding to protect against their brainless gorillas, they charge a higher fee because the box is large relative to its weight!!!
Tony V 10-30-2007, 04:08 PM Just goes to show that this isnt only a US problem as far as stuff getting damaged thru shipping. I hope you can fix the damage as thats a nice set. Good luck!
-Tony
Tube TV 10-30-2007, 04:42 PM Im surprised the CRT was not broke , it hit so hard it knocked it loose and moved the yoke back 1/4 of a inch . how it didn't break I dont know ?
I can fix the chassis . But is going to be a real job .
Tom_Ryan 11-02-2007, 10:53 PM Of course, the internal parts of most TV sets don't take a liking to high G forces; however, I've recently shipped some communication equipment through UPS (arrgh!) using a wooden crate from ULINE. :thmbsp:
http://www.uline.com/ProductDetail.asp?model=S-9921&root=&searchedkeywords=S-9921
One tough box. Plywood locked together with metal straps. Not cheap either. What you do is place a item on thick foam pads, say 6 to 8 inches all around and then wrap the crate with card board. No need for this end up or fragile stickers - that only attracts attention to the would be football players. UPS thinks it's just an ordinary box until..they try to lift. I recently had 2 crates delivered each weighed 135 lbs and basically could barely be lifted by the delivery guy. I could tell that no one was going to pick up and risk dropping on their toes. The corner of one box looked like it had been dropped but once I peeled off the cardboard, the 1/4 inch plywood sides are so strong, it took the abuse. The contents were perfect. :D
nasadowsk 11-03-2007, 12:17 AM I'm almost wondering is putting a Shockwatch and Tip 'n tell on the box might help.
For those who've not heard of these, they are 'rough handling monitors', basically a sticker with a capsule that breaks if you abuse the box, thus causing a real visible indication on the sticker. Tip 'n Tell turns color if you tip the box too much.
UPS guys by where I work tend to handle any package with one very carefully...
Boobtubeman 11-03-2007, 05:03 PM As seen on MYTHBUSTERS.. :)
Steve
Findm-Keepm 11-03-2007, 08:23 PM I'm almost wondering is putting a Shockwatch and Tip 'n tell on the box might help.
For those who've not heard of these, they are 'rough handling monitors', basically a sticker with a capsule that breaks if you abuse the box, thus causing a real visible indication on the sticker. Tip 'n Tell turns color if you tip the box too much.
UPS guys by where I work tend to handle any package with one very carefully...
Also available at ULINE! :yes: We purchased tons of stuff from them when I was in the Navy - great boxes and prices too. I now get anti-static foam from them - cheaper than AllSpec!
The crates are definitely the way to go - the Navy uses the 1/4" plywood ones when shipping avionic boxes via UPS or FEDEX. One entire building at the Naval Station is devoted to building the crates to spec - the building is loacted on Lumber Lane! :D
Glad to hear the CRT survived. I made a trip of it when having to retrieve a bunch of test equipment I won in an auction. I took one of those egg-crate foam mattress covers and wrapped the delicate stuff for the trip back. Happy to say all 7 o-scopes and 9 meters made the trip okay!
Cheers,
colorfixer 11-04-2007, 01:24 AM Shipping Canada Post? Man, you're playing with fire hoping a mail carrier cares as much about your stuff as you do.
I ship anything that I care about using a furniture moving company. There are many that ship many small items in an LTL (less than a load) quite economically.
Tube TV 11-04-2007, 01:00 AM actually , this is the first time Canada Post has damaged anything , I have ordered welders and other heavy items and never had any problems .
If I was to order another TV , I would consider other methods of shipping .
ChrisW6ATV 11-04-2007, 12:50 PM Maybe if shippers were required to pay the amount of insurance bought rather than what they decide something is worth, they would handle things better. "To me, this TV is worth $750 and you broke it, so pay up! I bought that much insurance..."
Of course, in such a system, shipping offices would have to see inside packages to inspect the packing quality, but that could be a good idea, too.
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